[mikm]

My personal opinion, based upon my observations is that the 0.2 I treated earlier this year (which are doing well, btw) are ordiniodes . The male acquired with that group looks very different then those two girls and always has ... way before I was aware of the 2 different sub-species. He is a bright lime green, with a narrow snout which was more noticeable when he was housed with the ordiniodes girls, he is not blue at all. Back when I got them I asked "bob" about it and his reply was a lot of them were like (green) that but all babies turned blue ... for what that's worth. 'Someone' else (not 'bob', but a very reliable source) told me the green ones were rare, so I don't really know ?? I know I have been promising a photo shoot so I will just leave that alone for now as I have no excuse, the weather has been great !! That said ...

Rick, thanks for the info on the "r-select, k-select species" ... that's interesting to me. Not sure I agree with your color (or lack thereof) statement in regards to being bred to a wild type male. All of the adult WC animals of both sub species that I have seen (pics or in person) have very nice color. Green, blue, or blue/green, they all certainly catch your eye ... There is no mistaking it. Perhaps it has been my somewhat limited view of these animals but none that I have seen lacked color. Very much looking forward to seeing more litters 'on the ground'.

You all are always so helpful & thought provoking, THANK YOU !!

best wishes,
marian