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Old 11-24-2006, 04:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
GarterGuy
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Re: Identify this one

Well this definitely is not a ribbon snake (eastern or western), it's missing the dark stripe between the lateral stripe and the caudal scales that the eastern ribbon has and doesn't have the two fused spots on the top of the head like the western ribbons do. Also it looks a lot more robust then most ribbons and it's head also looks more "blocky" then a ribbon snake.
Now the hard part.....it's definitely a T.sirtalis ssp., but which one???? I'd be willing to bet it's a T.s.parietalis. I've seen others that have the red really reduced on them, but like you said....the white further back does remind me of an Eastern (T.s.sirtalis)...so possilby could be an intergrade. They do cross over in the wild, so it's possible. Besides that, not knowing where it came from (if it was a wild caught animal) or it's parents.....it's really hard to tell.
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