[adamanteus]

No probs, Rich. I think goldfish belong to the Carp family....anyone?

If anyone has never witnessed the effects of thiamin deficiency, let me just outline a few of the symptoms.....
At first the snake looks well and continues to put on weight, but the movements appear impaired. The snake seems 'clumbsy' and will fall over for no apparent reason. As things progress, forward movement is accompanied by a strange spiralling of the body, so that sections of the belly are uppermost as the snake crawls. Later, the snake will twist itself into tight coils and knots, and suddenly convulse. The muscle tension can be so great that I have seen Garters prolapse large sections of the gut.

Although Thiaminase prevents the synthesis of calcium in the body, this does not show as poor bone formation, as you might expect. Obviously calcium is needed by the motor system of the snake. Death results long before bone deformity becomes apparent. It must be incredibly painfull.

Trust me, you don't want to see your snakes go through this. Never use fish containing Thiaminase. There are so many safe alternatives.