rancor and sschind
These extended posts are hard for me to read with all those idiom and abbreviations.
Herping is something strange,cranky maybe crazy kind of illness, caused by bad influences or childhood.
Both of you two have to be catalogized to this!
like me
donīt blame on each other
(it sounds to me like this)
there are many other people to do so on any reptile keeper without any differences.
Those people will also say banning reptiles is necessary at all.