I guess its just me then... Well I wasn't talking about feeders at all.. I mean my breeder rats are like kids to me.. Just I can't keep all my rats I produce ( I mean don't get me wrong I would love to but I can't) then that would be taking away from my all 5 of my snakes food.. besides that I lived on a goat farm all my life... I've seen life and then I've seen death and I've excepted the 2... I mean everything passes on eventually (spelling?) I don't know just thought it was mean not to give me a chance..