it looks a lot like parietalis that has faded from age or like a northern one that didnt have that much red to start out with i didnt know that sirtalis could have red also it looks alot like an older version of my northern red-sided
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Originally Posted by ssssnakeluvr
I would say that's a t sirtalis sirtalis....minor red and orange is common on them... doesn't quite look like vagrans. 
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