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stonyloam · 03-14-2007, 08:36 PM

Not knowing any better I would think that it might not be T.s. pallidulus (not based on any particular knowledge of snake identification on my part) but we are (in western NY) probably outside of the normal range of that subspecies and I would expect them to be pretty rare around here, and the local snakes (local being around my house) seem to be brown with similar markings (below). The one that I photographed in the sunroom appears to have the same markings as the blue one, except that it is brown. Then of course I could be an idiot and they are all. pallidulus. Oh well in either case it is still a cool snake.

03-14-2007, 08:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
stonyloam "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western NY Posts: 521 Country:	Re: Blue (eastern) garter snake Not knowing any better I would think that it might not be T.s. pallidulus (not based on any particular knowledge of snake identification on my part) but we are (in western NY) probably outside of the normal range of that subspecies and I would expect them to be pretty rare around here, and the local snakes (local being around my house) seem to be brown with similar markings (below). The one that I photographed in the sunroom appears to have the same markings as the blue one, except that it is brown. Then of course I could be an idiot and they are all. pallidulus. Oh well in either case it is still a cool snake.