[GarterGuy]

Yeh, I don't really care for it either....but T.s.pallidulus is a subspecies I've really wanted to work with for quite a while and I've had a really hard time frinding them. I also know people who work with snake eating species (king cobras, corals, ect.) that depend on some supply of "feeder" snakes. Ryan does breed quite a number of them as well, so not sure just how many are actually supplied just through being wild collected.