Male or female?

rwgsnakes · 06-30-2007, 07:24 PM

I was told this was a female by a vendor at the hamburg show, he was able to quickly identify it by a mere glimps so i have feeling he knows what he is talking about but i would like some other ideas

Thanks

snakeman · 06-30-2007, 08:33 PM

it does look like a female.

Sid · 06-30-2007, 08:40 PM

There is a pronounced taper to the tail at the vent and short tail lenght. I agree with female.

Sid

rwgsnakes · 06-30-2007, 08:54 PM

k thanks guys

how about this one?

i was told he was a male

ssssnakeluvr · 06-30-2007, 09:04 PM

looks like he was right on both.....

adamanteus · 07-01-2007, 02:32 AM

I concur...right on both counts.

LushLulu85 · 07-01-2007, 06:35 AM

looks correct to me

GarterGuy · 07-01-2007, 09:12 AM

I'd have to agree with everyone else, first one a female, second on a male. Are these the Plains garters (T.radix) that one of the dealers was selling at the end of one of the rows. I was looking at them myself. Nice looking snakes if this is what they are.

Roy

rwgsnakes · 07-01-2007, 11:20 AM

Thanks everyone!

Garterguy-

They are actually albino checkereds, i have gotten them at past shows and just brought them to have em sexed. The guy that did it for me had two 4 year old female albinos for sale.

Thanks again... do they seem large enough to breed next spring? i plan on burmutating them this winter of hopes of babies next summer but im not sure on their ages.

I read on a web site that their have been garters that have breed at 11 months... i thought it was 2 years. What is true?

Here this is the site i read it from

Alan's Garter Snakes - Maintenance of Garter Snakes

adamanteus · 07-01-2007, 11:23 AM

I wouldn't want to second guess Alan Francis..... he's the man!

06-30-2007, 07:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
rwgsnakes Juvenile snake Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 146 Country:	Male or female? I was told this was a female by a vendor at the hamburg show, he was able to quickly identify it by a mere glimps so i have feeling he knows what he is talking about but i would like some other ideas Thanks

06-30-2007, 08:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
snakeman "First shed, A Success" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: PA Posts: 104	Re: Male or female? it does look like a female.

06-30-2007, 08:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sid Thamnophis Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,360 Country:	Re: Male or female? There is a pronounced taper to the tail at the vent and short tail lenght. I agree with female. Sid

06-30-2007, 08:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
rwgsnakes Juvenile snake Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 146 Country:	Re: Male or female? k thanks guys how about this one? i was told he was a male

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ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,478 Country:	Re: Male or female? looks like he was right on both.....

07-01-2007, 02:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: Male or female? I concur...right on both counts. __________________ James.

07-01-2007, 06:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
LushLulu85 "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: stockport, Greater Manchester, uk Posts: 1,522 Country:	Re: Male or female? looks correct to me

07-01-2007, 09:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,355 Country:	Re: Male or female? I'd have to agree with everyone else, first one a female, second on a male. Are these the Plains garters (T.radix) that one of the dealers was selling at the end of one of the rows. I was looking at them myself. Nice looking snakes if this is what they are. Roy __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

07-01-2007, 11:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
rwgsnakes Juvenile snake Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 146 Country:	Re: Male or female? Thanks everyone! Garterguy- They are actually albino checkereds, i have gotten them at past shows and just brought them to have em sexed. The guy that did it for me had two 4 year old female albinos for sale. Thanks again... do they seem large enough to breed next spring? i plan on burmutating them this winter of hopes of babies next summer but im not sure on their ages. I read on a web site that their have been garters that have breed at 11 months... i thought it was 2 years. What is true? Here this is the site i read it from Alan's Garter Snakes - Maintenance of Garter Snakes

07-01-2007, 11:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: Male or female? I wouldn't want to second guess Alan Francis..... he's the man! __________________ James.

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