bad news!!!!

vwsrcool · 07-01-2007, 12:37 PM

well the to be california red spotted mother did not produce any babies, instead she had 21 jelly bean looking things that quickly dried up, this is a big disapointment, does anyone know what would cause this???

adamanteus · 07-01-2007, 12:40 PM

Sorry to hear your bad news, Ben. There could be several possible causes, was it the female's first time? Is she quite young?

vwsrcool · 07-01-2007, 12:42 PM

im pretty sure the guy i got her from said she was breed before, she is pretty big. i have a maritme garter that is about to pop, i hope everything goes good with her.

adamanteus · 07-01-2007, 12:44 PM

Fingers crossed for the Maritime, Ben. I've heard that stress and too high temperatures can cause this too. Could that be possible?

LushLulu85 · 07-01-2007, 12:55 PM

really sorry o hear about that Ben. wish you all the best with the Maritime. xxx

GarterGuy · 07-01-2007, 03:15 PM

Sorry to hear that Ben....really sucks.

I"ve also heard that too high temps. can cause this. A lot of people keep their gravid garters like other colubrids, but it seems they do better with slightly cooler temps. or at least a means of getting to a relatively cool spot in the tank. Best of luck with you T.s.pallidulus.....keep me posted on her progress, I'd be VERY interested in some babies since my Maritime search seems to have gone south. Do you have any pics of the mama to be?

Roy

ssssnakeluvr · 07-01-2007, 03:41 PM

the females eggs didnt get fertilized...produced slugs...my florida blue did that last year...

adamanteus · 07-01-2007, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ssssnakeluvr

the females eggs didnt get fertilized...produced slugs...my florida blue did that last year...

I don't really get that, Don.

If you keep a lone female and never mate her, she won't produce slugs every year.

ssssnakeluvr · 07-01-2007, 03:48 PM

no...they generally throw slus after unsuccessful breedings...my florida blue did that last year and threw about 5 slugs this year....not sure on the cause...generally if they don't breed they won't throw slugs. I did have one slug thrown last year by my western terrestrial....she wasn't with a male for 3 years or so...my male passed away and she didn't breed...kinda odd

adamanteus · 07-01-2007, 03:49 PM

Oh right, so if they mate but the breeding is unsuccessful that's another cause of slugs?

07-01-2007, 12:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
vwsrcool "First shed In Progress" Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunbury pennsylvania usa Posts: 91 Country:	bad news!!!! well the to be california red spotted mother did not produce any babies, instead she had 21 jelly bean looking things that quickly dried up, this is a big disapointment, does anyone know what would cause this???

07-01-2007, 12:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: bad news!!!! Sorry to hear your bad news, Ben. There could be several possible causes, was it the female's first time? Is she quite young? __________________ James.

07-01-2007, 12:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
vwsrcool "First shed In Progress" Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sunbury pennsylvania usa Posts: 91 Country:	Re: bad news!!!! im pretty sure the guy i got her from said she was breed before, she is pretty big. i have a maritme garter that is about to pop, i hope everything goes good with her.

07-01-2007, 12:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: bad news!!!! Fingers crossed for the Maritime, Ben. I've heard that stress and too high temperatures can cause this too. Could that be possible? __________________ James.

07-01-2007, 12:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
LushLulu85 "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: stockport, Greater Manchester, uk Posts: 1,522 Country:	Re: bad news!!!! really sorry o hear about that Ben. wish you all the best with the Maritime. xxx __________________ Lulu 1.1.16T. M. Marcianus (Albino), Sissle & Kia and the sprogs 1.1. T. S. Tetrataenia, Clyde & Bonnie

07-01-2007, 03:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,355 Country:	Re: bad news!!!! Sorry to hear that Ben....really sucks. I"ve also heard that too high temps. can cause this. A lot of people keep their gravid garters like other colubrids, but it seems they do better with slightly cooler temps. or at least a means of getting to a relatively cool spot in the tank. Best of luck with you T.s.pallidulus.....keep me posted on her progress, I'd be VERY interested in some babies since my Maritime search seems to have gone south. Do you have any pics of the mama to be? Roy __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

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ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,478 Country:	Re: bad news!!!! the females eggs didnt get fertilized...produced slugs...my florida blue did that last year...

07-01-2007, 03:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,478 Country:	Re: bad news!!!! no...they generally throw slus after unsuccessful breedings...my florida blue did that last year and threw about 5 slugs this year....not sure on the cause...generally if they don't breed they won't throw slugs. I did have one slug thrown last year by my western terrestrial....she wasn't with a male for 3 years or so...my male passed away and she didn't breed...kinda odd

07-01-2007, 03:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: bad news!!!! Oh right, so if they mate but the breeding is unsuccessful that's another cause of slugs? __________________ James.

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