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Old 08-27-2007, 07:17 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: deformed pics

put them in in a small contane,like really small small area to freeze you think? lol
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Large rock + elevation = instant death and no pain. Saves a load of money to...
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:24 PM   #33 (permalink)
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That's my thought on it too.
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Old 08-27-2007, 07:46 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Cool Re: deformed pics

It is "normal" that every now and then there is a deformed baby in a litter. Sometimes even a whole litter is deformed.Has nothing to do with inbreeding.For snakes the general opinion is that maybe after 10 generations of inbreeding there might be a chance you get deformed young. Ten generations take about thirty years.In the wild there is a lot of inbreeding going on in seperate populations. Without noticable problems.I kill such animals with a firm hit on the head with something heavy. First I cool such an animal in the refrigerator for a fw hours.Freezing I do not do because this seems to be painfull.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:08 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: deformed pics

I asked a vet the best way to euthanize a snake and he said this:
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Were it me, I'd give it an injection of euthanasia dolution (usually sodium pentobarbital) into the coelomic cavity (abdomen) and just wait for it expire slowly but painlessly.
Not sure if you can get that without a vet giving it to you or not, hope it helps.

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Old 08-27-2007, 10:28 PM   #36 (permalink)
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it's a controlled substance, like anesthetics...only given at vet clinics or some animal shelters. It is strictly controlled....I work for a shelter as an animal control officer, we use it there....have to log every cc used.
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:45 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:52 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Re: deformed pics

i am worried incase i have deformed babies. i dont think i would have the gutts to freeze the poor things lol
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I was reading an article on decapitation....snakes have a tolerance for low oxygen levels....decapitation isn't the best....head will survive for a while. I have heard freezing is painful, never read any articles on that tho... another probably more expensive way is euthanasia performed by a vet....it's an injection and painless...
I have always figured that I can put them into a brumation temperature first, then freeze, and the fact that they are already sleeping will make it not be painful...
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kitkat i think i would do it that way but then again i could just ask James nicely lol
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