deformed pics - Page 5

Stefan-A · 08-31-2007, 10:19 AM

Read an article on the subject myself a while back, some draft by some Australian authority and regarding euthanasia of different animals, from mammals to birds to reptiles etc. IIRC, the recommendation was a swift strike to the head, followed by decapitation followed by destruction of the brain. Freezing was deemed "not acceptable".

Elliot · 08-31-2007, 03:52 PM

That seems pretty humane to me, but for peole who are a little more timid it might be a bit much.

Sputnik · 08-31-2007, 05:27 PM

Do you think you might be able to use the same method you use for your mice? CO2, wasn't it?

Elliot · 08-31-2007, 05:30 PM

That's a good point, but wouldn't it take a lot longer to kill the snakes than the mice? I guess it wouldn't really matter though if it was still painless.

Stefan-A · 08-31-2007, 09:33 PM

Found the pdf. "Euthanasia of animals used for scientific purposes (Currently under revision) - Australian and New Zealand Council for the Care of Animals in Research and Teaching"

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/ANZCCART/...Euthanasia.pdf

Recommended:
Barbiturates.

Acceptable with reservations:
Stunning + destruction of brain (the method I mentioned)

Not acceptable:
Inhaled agents - Halothane, isoflurane, methoxyflurane (reason: able to hold their breaths -> protracted induction)
Hypothermia - crystal formation painful
Decapitation alone - doesn't cause rapid unconsciousness

drache · 09-01-2007, 05:08 AM

I just really hope I don't ever have to do this

Stefan-A · 09-01-2007, 07:26 AM

Yeah, definitely the downside of keeping animals.

adamanteus · 09-01-2007, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan-A

Yeah, definitely the downside of keeping animals.

Indeed. I guess if it comes to it, you just have to not give it too much thought and just get the job done.

Thamnophis · 09-02-2007, 02:22 PM

It helps when you put the animal in a bag er so. Than you can not see it. Make sure that you know exactly where the head is when you give it a blow.

08-31-2007, 10:19 AM	#41 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 4,772 Country:	Re: deformed pics Read an article on the subject myself a while back, some draft by some Australian authority and regarding euthanasia of different animals, from mammals to birds to reptiles etc. IIRC, the recommendation was a swift strike to the head, followed by decapitation followed by destruction of the brain. Freezing was deemed "not acceptable". __________________ Natura non contristatur

08-31-2007, 03:52 PM	#42 (permalink)
Elliot Mountaineer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Missouri City, TX Posts: 1,083 Country:	Re: deformed pics That seems pretty humane to me, but for peole who are a little more timid it might be a bit much. __________________ 1.1.1! T.p.orarius Gulf Coast Ribbon (Stanely & Femme) 0.0.1 T.s.pallidulus Maritime Garter (No Name) 0.1 Eublepharis macularius Normal Leo (Lemon) Shine on you crazy diamond

08-31-2007, 05:27 PM	#43 (permalink)
Sputnik "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Wiltshire Posts: 552 Country:	Re: deformed pics Do you think you might be able to use the same method you use for your mice? CO2, wasn't it?

08-31-2007, 05:30 PM	#44 (permalink)
Elliot Mountaineer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Missouri City, TX Posts: 1,083 Country:	Re: deformed pics That's a good point, but wouldn't it take a lot longer to kill the snakes than the mice? I guess it wouldn't really matter though if it was still painless. __________________ 1.1.1! T.p.orarius Gulf Coast Ribbon (Stanely & Femme) 0.0.1 T.s.pallidulus Maritime Garter (No Name) 0.1 Eublepharis macularius Normal Leo (Lemon) Shine on you crazy diamond

08-31-2007, 09:33 PM	#45 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 4,772 Country:	Re: deformed pics Found the pdf. "Euthanasia of animals used for scientific purposes (Currently under revision) - Australian and New Zealand Council for the Care of Animals in Research and Teaching" http://www.adelaide.edu.au/ANZCCART/...Euthanasia.pdf Recommended: Barbiturates. Acceptable with reservations: Stunning + destruction of brain (the method I mentioned) Not acceptable: Inhaled agents - Halothane, isoflurane, methoxyflurane (reason: able to hold their breaths -> protracted induction) Hypothermia - crystal formation painful Decapitation alone - doesn't cause rapid unconsciousness __________________ Natura non contristatur

09-01-2007, 05:08 AM	#46 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 3,860 Country:	Re: deformed pics I just really hope I don't ever have to do this __________________ rhea "Life is just one damn thing after another" - Mark Twain this place is one damn beautiful snake after another - me

09-01-2007, 07:26 AM	#47 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 4,772 Country:	Re: deformed pics Yeah, definitely the downside of keeping animals. __________________ Natura non contristatur

09-02-2007, 02:22 PM	#49 (permalink)
Thamnophis Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,313 Country:	Re: deformed pics It helps when you put the animal in a bag er so. Than you can not see it. Make sure that you know exactly where the head is when you give it a blow. __________________ Kousebandslangen.nl - Member of the EGSA It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner. Frank Zappa

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