Anyone ever cross tetrataenia with blotched ssp. (infernalis, concinnus, parietalis)

[G-natrix]

Penalties are severe -- potentially you could do jail time and the fine is something like $20,000.00 USD (that's right - twenty THOUSAND dollars) PER SNAKE.

There's a procedure for getting a permit but they're hard to get & take a couple years sometimes to process. You would need to have a pretty good conservation and/or science angle to get the permit. They don't give them out for breeders or pet trade associated uses.

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[Bay_area]

Originally Posted by zooplan

what penalty is set to something like catching, keeping, breeding, selling or shipping a San Franzisco Garter Snake to Europe?
Would there be any way to get a permission for that?

Not sure of the penalty, but it is Federally Protected not just a State crime. The "Feds" have more power & will prosecute to the fullest no matter what. Even know we are not doing anything wrong, when we see one in the wild, I am nervous the whole time while taking pics of them

Another Federally protected snake in my area is the Alameda Striped Racer.
A beatiful snake!

[Stefan-A]

It is a beautiful snake. Almost looks like that other wannabe garter, Nerodia clarkii.

[zooplan]

20.000,00 thats a lot for one snake, but when I know right, habitat resources for those snakes are still decreasing.
As it seems coservation and science are much closer to private efforts in Europe.

[Charlet_2007]

if i was going to pay that much for a snake it would b for a lutistic (spelling?) ball python not mixing different snakes...

[adamanteus]

$20,000 isn't the price of the snake...it's the cost of the fine if you are caught interferring with them!

[Bay_area]

Originally Posted by adamanteus

$20,000 isn't the price of the snake...it's the cost of the fine if you are caught interferring with them!

And they do not even let you keep the snake after you pay the fine...LOL!

[zooplan]

You should not keep it, ship it to me

Serious again:
If habitat decreasing is going on, the natural populations will be died out soon.
Only very few specimens would expand the European geenpool enormously.

[Thamnophis]

You can also say that when the habitats for tetrataenia are (almost) gone and there is no chance to restore them, why should you protect them in the wild.
I am not saying that is MY opinion, but it is something to discuss.

[zooplan]

If you can get a goal in two ways, both should be tried.
In conservation you can get best effects if habitat protection and a vital captive population could be relized.
One ore even a small group of specimens won´t hurt a vital population but can raise a new one.
The first ´tetrataenias have settled back to San Francisco from Europe yet.