Jellybeans.. female only tank? - Page 2

adamanteus · 02-10-2008, 10:21 AM

Maybe we should conduct an experiment? Anyone with neonate Wandering Garters fancy trying it out?

Stefan-A · 02-10-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by adamanteus

Maybe we should conduct an experiment? Anyone with neonate Wandering Garters fancy trying it out?

Huh, what?

adamanteus · 02-10-2008, 11:33 AM

Someone could keep an all female group in a rich environment, providing an abundance of everything, except mates.... and see if they reproduce.

ssssnakeluvr · 02-10-2008, 05:48 PM

hmmmmm...I have wandering garters all over out here....I might give it a try. I have a western terretrial female that threw a slug 2 summers ago and hasn't been with a male for 3 years before that....

adamanteus · 02-10-2008, 05:57 PM

I guess you're just the man for the job, Don! Could you keep a female (or two) from birth and raise them in isolation... and see what happens?
I think the key might be to offer an environment that could sustain a higher population, but deprive them of an opportunity to mate.
If parthenogenesis is possible in Garter Snakes, it would be nice if Thamnophis.com proved it!

ssssnakeluvr · 02-10-2008, 08:03 PM

just keep reminding me.....I can get a gravid female or 2 from out here somewhere, have an awesome 20 gal long tank to raise them in, and can post info on them. gonna be fun!!!!

mycolorfulheart · 02-10-2008, 08:03 PM

I wouldn't be surprised at all if parthenogenesis was possible. I'm not planning on breeding Raven, (and the last day of her brumation she had like 10 jelly beans) so we'll see what happens! I keep hearing more and more reports of parthenogenesis happening in more and more reptile species; i expect that the more captive-bred reptiles the world is keeping, more and more species will be shown to have this trait. Cool stuff!

anji1971 · 02-10-2008, 08:56 PM

Okay, here's a question.......
How come some snakes throw so many jellybeans, and some hardly any?? When I had Dojo she only threw one in the whole two years, and Deejay never has. Mind you, Deejay's been alone since birth.
But some of you have snakes popping out jellybeans right and left, it seems. Is there a reason for the difference??

02-10-2008, 10:21 AM	#11 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 9,102	Re: Jellybeans.. female only tank? Maybe we should conduct an experiment? Anyone with neonate Wandering Garters fancy trying it out? __________________ James.

02-10-2008, 11:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 9,102	Re: Jellybeans.. female only tank? Someone could keep an all female group in a rich environment, providing an abundance of everything, except mates.... and see if they reproduce. __________________ James.

02-10-2008, 05:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr Mr Thamnophis Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,422	Re: Jellybeans.. female only tank? hmmmmm...I have wandering garters all over out here....I might give it a try. I have a western terretrial female that threw a slug 2 summers ago and hasn't been with a male for 3 years before that.... __________________ Don www.donsgartersnakes.net

02-10-2008, 05:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 9,102	Re: Jellybeans.. female only tank? I guess you're just the man for the job, Don! Could you keep a female (or two) from birth and raise them in isolation... and see what happens? I think the key might be to offer an environment that could sustain a higher population, but deprive them of an opportunity to mate. If parthenogenesis is possible in Garter Snakes, it would be nice if Thamnophis.com proved it! __________________ James.

02-10-2008, 08:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr Mr Thamnophis Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,422	Re: Jellybeans.. female only tank? just keep reminding me.....I can get a gravid female or 2 from out here somewhere, have an awesome 20 gal long tank to raise them in, and can post info on them. gonna be fun!!!! __________________ Don www.donsgartersnakes.net

02-10-2008, 08:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
mycolorfulheart "First shed, A Success" Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 114	Re: Jellybeans.. female only tank? I wouldn't be surprised at all if parthenogenesis was possible. I'm not planning on breeding Raven, (and the last day of her brumation she had like 10 jelly beans) so we'll see what happens! I keep hearing more and more reports of parthenogenesis happening in more and more reptile species; i expect that the more captive-bred reptiles the world is keeping, more and more species will be shown to have this trait. Cool stuff!

02-10-2008, 08:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
anji1971 The Leader of the Eastern Gang Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Windsor, Ontario Posts: 2,868	Re: Jellybeans.. female only tank? Okay, here's a question....... How come some snakes throw so many jellybeans, and some hardly any?? When I had Dojo she only threw one in the whole two years, and Deejay never has. Mind you, Deejay's been alone since birth. But some of you have snakes popping out jellybeans right and left, it seems. Is there a reason for the difference?? __________________ Anji

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