Pale male - Page 3

Zephyr · 04-27-2008, 09:52 AM

I caught a snake like this earlier this year. They're very pretty snakes, an overall lighter coloration. Probably just some sort of gene that hinders melanin production. Theoretically, one could do a series of inbreeding to produce hypomelanistic individuals...

count dewclaw · 04-27-2008, 09:55 AM

That's what I hope to work on...

Zephyr · 04-27-2008, 10:08 AM

Ah. :P
You'd need a female like that, unless it's sex-linked.

count dewclaw · 04-27-2008, 10:12 AM

I have him in with a female and I'm hoping some of the offspring will be light. Keep the lightest offspring and breed them, and so on and so forth...we shall see.

Zephyr · 04-27-2008, 10:15 AM

Ah. :P
Just hope that the female is het for the lighter color.

count dewclaw · 04-27-2008, 10:17 AM

Yeah, me too! There is a chance that she is his mother...

aSnakeLovinBabe · 04-27-2008, 10:45 AM

I don't mean to bring ya down at all, but I don't think that snake is a hypo! I mean he could be, but, chances are he's just a bit lighter than most. He just doesn't stand out as hypo to me, but he still is a very pretty snake. But anyways, just be sure that when you do get babies from HIS babies, start outcrossing so they don't become too inbred, it will weaken their genes and you could start to see problems

KITKAT · 04-27-2008, 12:05 PM

I'm with Shannon Nicole on this one. normals are light like this in Ohio very often... in fact, the bigger snake in the pic is darker than most easterns in Ohio.

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Originally Posted by count dewclaw

Caught this pair of Easterns. As you can see the male is pale compared to the female. Would this be considered hypomelanistic? I'm just learning about the different color variations...

Zephyr · 04-27-2008, 01:07 PM

I'm not saying he's a hypo, but what I am saying is to have that light coloration there has to be some sort of gene that hinders (not stops) the snake's production of melanin.

KITKAT · 04-27-2008, 01:10 PM

Here in Ohio, I have been referring to the light ones as "chocolates". But I don't know what genetics is at work.

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Originally Posted by Zephyr

I'm not saying he's a hypo, but what I am saying is to have that light coloration there has to be some sort of gene that hinders (not stops) the snake's production of melanin.

04-27-2008, 09:52 AM	#21 (permalink)
Zephyr Thamnophis inspectus Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dearborn, Michigan Posts: 1,923 Country:	Re: Pale male I caught a snake like this earlier this year. They're very pretty snakes, an overall lighter coloration. Probably just some sort of gene that hinders melanin production. Theoretically, one could do a series of inbreeding to produce hypomelanistic individuals...

04-27-2008, 09:55 AM	#22 (permalink)
count dewclaw Adult snake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fingerlakes Region New York Posts: 589 Country:	Re: Pale male That's what I hope to work on... __________________ LeAnn http://www.keepsakeknits.com 2.0.0 T. radix (anerythristic plains garter) "Asmodeus" and "Zassaliss" 0.0.1 T. proximus orarius "Carrot" 1.1.0 T. sirtalis pickeringii "Azule" and "Penny"

04-27-2008, 10:08 AM	#23 (permalink)
Zephyr Thamnophis inspectus Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dearborn, Michigan Posts: 1,923 Country:	Re: Pale male Ah. :P You'd need a female like that, unless it's sex-linked.

04-27-2008, 10:12 AM	#24 (permalink)
count dewclaw Adult snake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fingerlakes Region New York Posts: 589 Country:	Re: Pale male I have him in with a female and I'm hoping some of the offspring will be light. Keep the lightest offspring and breed them, and so on and so forth...we shall see. __________________ LeAnn http://www.keepsakeknits.com 2.0.0 T. radix (anerythristic plains garter) "Asmodeus" and "Zassaliss" 0.0.1 T. proximus orarius "Carrot" 1.1.0 T. sirtalis pickeringii "Azule" and "Penny"

04-27-2008, 10:15 AM	#25 (permalink)
Zephyr Thamnophis inspectus Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dearborn, Michigan Posts: 1,923 Country:	Re: Pale male Ah. :P Just hope that the female is het for the lighter color.

04-27-2008, 10:17 AM	#26 (permalink)
count dewclaw Adult snake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fingerlakes Region New York Posts: 589 Country:	Re: Pale male Yeah, me too! There is a chance that she is his mother... __________________ LeAnn http://www.keepsakeknits.com 2.0.0 T. radix (anerythristic plains garter) "Asmodeus" and "Zassaliss" 0.0.1 T. proximus orarius "Carrot" 1.1.0 T. sirtalis pickeringii "Azule" and "Penny"

04-27-2008, 10:45 AM	#27 (permalink)
aSnakeLovinBabe The Serpentine Queen Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,171 Country:	Re: Pale male I don't mean to bring ya down at all, but I don't think that snake is a hypo! I mean he could be, but, chances are he's just a bit lighter than most. He just doesn't stand out as hypo to me, but he still is a very pretty snake. But anyways, just be sure that when you do get babies from HIS babies, start outcrossing so they don't become too inbred, it will weaken their genes and you could start to see problems __________________ Shannon<3Nicole So while you're outside looking in, Describing what you see, Remember what you're staring at is me.

04-27-2008, 01:07 PM	#29 (permalink)
Zephyr Thamnophis inspectus Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dearborn, Michigan Posts: 1,923 Country:	Re: Pale male I'm not saying he's a hypo, but what I am saying is to have that light coloration there has to be some sort of gene that hinders (not stops) the snake's production of melanin.

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