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04-17-2008, 01:10 PM
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Pale male
Caught this pair of Easterns. As you can see the male is pale compared to the female. Would this be considered hypomelanistic? I'm just learning about the different color variations...
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04-17-2008, 01:24 PM
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Re: Pale male
In my opinion, you would have to know what the norm was in the population he's originally from. There are so many colour variations in the wild, that it's hard to tell which has "reduced black pigmentation" and which hasn't. It's all relative.
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04-17-2008, 01:28 PM
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Re: Pale male
Well, I've never seen one this color before, but I hear what you are saying. I like his color anyway. I still have alot to learn about garter snakes.
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04-17-2008, 01:32 PM
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Re: Pale male
Actually, I don't think it's that far from aSnakeLovinBabe's eastern.
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04-17-2008, 02:49 PM
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Re: Pale male
I don't think he is quite that pale, but definitely lighter than any others I've seen. I'll try to get some better pictures.
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04-18-2008, 04:01 AM
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Re: Pale male
Great photo, LeAnn. I really like that male.
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04-18-2008, 04:42 AM
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Re: Pale male
nice snakes, that female looks huge,any possibility of being gravid? or a nice robust snake..........
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04-18-2008, 06:05 AM
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Re: Pale male
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 . She is a big girl, I'm guessing about 30" long.
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04-18-2008, 08:21 AM
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Re: Pale male
That female looks almost exactly like the big eastern that I found last May, she also looked quite stout when I fond her. I kept her through the summer and she gave birth to 42 live babies on August 20, 2007. My Big Eastern...
The other one looks very much like the one hanging around my sunroom now. Mine is a little darker green, but markings are very similar. That by the way is a great photo and would be a nice addition to the "Easterns I have met " thread collection of photos. 
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