Male or female ??? - Page 2

GarterGuy · 02-13-2007, 10:39 PM

I'd also have to jump on the male bandwagon. As for why, if you look at the top pic you submitted, the tail doesn't really hardly taper at all after the cloaca....leaves plenty of room for hemipenes. You will, a lot of times, see much more of a taper after the cloaca on females. Question though? You have UnitedStates as where you're from, but the pic is of SanFran. Garters (T.s.tetrataenia).....they are a federally protected species in the US. Do you have some special permit to have them or something? Just curious, I'd love to be able to work with them if it were possible....but legally of course.

Roy

Thamnophis · 02-14-2007, 05:29 AM

That was what I also was curious about.

Is it not so that there are probably more T. s. tetrataenia in the hands of USA-keepers than the governement would wish? Illegally, I mean.

Mr. Nielsen · 02-14-2007, 03:15 PM

Thanks for the answers again !
I must have made a mistake, when filling out my profile...

Im from Denmark !!!

Nielsen

RedSided · 04-01-2007, 06:52 AM

is it just me or do the males heads often look diferent to the females, they always seem to have smaller eyes and a different shape head.

Cazador · 04-01-2007, 01:57 PM

Males are said to have somewhat differently-shaped heads. Sometimes I notice a difference, sometimes not. Maybe you have a better eye for seeing the difference than I do.

I suspect, that there are statistically significant differences between the head shapes of males and females, but there is also a good bit of overlap between the sexes.

adamanteus · 04-01-2007, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cazador

Males are said to have somewhat differently-shaped heads. Sometimes I notice a difference, sometimes not. Maybe you have a better eye for seeing the difference than I do.

I think that with experience you develop an eye for seeing the subtle differences between the sexes, sometimes these differences might be so small that they're hard to adequately articulate, you can "just tell" if it's a male of female.

abcat1993 · 04-02-2007, 02:32 PM

Speaking of heads I wish my garter's would grow, it's the same size as it was when it was 10" long, now it's probably near 20 and it looks kind of awkward.

adamanteus · 04-02-2007, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abcat1993

Speaking of heads I wish my garter's would grow, it's the same size as it was when it was 10" long, now it's probably near 20 and it looks kind of awkward.

You'll have to name him BeetleJuice!

02-13-2007, 10:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,356 Country:	Re: Male or female ??? I'd also have to jump on the male bandwagon. As for why, if you look at the top pic you submitted, the tail doesn't really hardly taper at all after the cloaca....leaves plenty of room for hemipenes. You will, a lot of times, see much more of a taper after the cloaca on females. Question though? You have UnitedStates as where you're from, but the pic is of SanFran. Garters (T.s.tetrataenia).....they are a federally protected species in the US. Do you have some special permit to have them or something? Just curious, I'd love to be able to work with them if it were possible....but legally of course. Roy __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

02-14-2007, 05:29 AM	#12 (permalink)
Thamnophis Dutch, bold and Thamnophis-crazy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,334 Country:	Re: Male or female ??? That was what I also was curious about. Is it not so that there are probably more T. s. tetrataenia in the hands of USA-keepers than the governement would wish? Illegally, I mean. __________________ Kousebandslangen.nl - Member of the EGSA It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner. Frank Zappa

02-14-2007, 03:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mr. Nielsen Hi, I'm New Here! Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4 Country:	Re: Male or female ??? Thanks for the answers again ! I must have made a mistake, when filling out my profile... Im from Denmark !!! Nielsen

04-01-2007, 06:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
RedSided "First shed In Progress" Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 92 Country:	Re: Male or female ??? is it just me or do the males heads often look diferent to the females, they always seem to have smaller eyes and a different shape head. __________________ Does your water bowl look like a toilet, it does? Guess I will have to change it again

04-01-2007, 01:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,609 Country:	Re: Male or female ??? Males are said to have somewhat differently-shaped heads. Sometimes I notice a difference, sometimes not. Maybe you have a better eye for seeing the difference than I do. I suspect, that there are statistically significant differences between the head shapes of males and females, but there is also a good bit of overlap between the sexes.

04-02-2007, 02:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
abcat1993 Old and wise snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: North of Chicago IL, US Posts: 867 Country:	Re: Male or female ??? Speaking of heads I wish my garter's would grow, it's the same size as it was when it was 10" long, now it's probably near 20 and it looks kind of awkward. __________________ 0.1 Jack Russell Terrier 1.0 rough skinned newt 1.0.0 eastern garter http://www.winnetka36.org/ci/ci_name.htm

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