PICTURES- Hypo Checkereds!

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

They are both girls. But the pastel from marcy's litter looks very different from my other clutch. In fact she is an exact clone of her father, a bit darker than the others. I am beginning to wonder if my female albino isn't actually pastel also.Slim chances, of course.... but not impossible. She's a young snake. I mean my whole reason for owning her in the first place is because she has more orange and yellow concentration than any other albino I have ever seen... and the spots on her that would normally be black are much more crisply outlined.... My reason for wondering if she is actually pastel also is because all of the other pictures of pastel babies I have seen look like the female that was born today. I haven't seen any others like my brighter ones, but I have heard from a guy who breeds these things (he is actually the guy I got my male from) that he believes there is a super form, he emailed me and told me that the supers have extremely light heads and an even brighter coloration. I will have to talk to him about this and see what he thinks. The real problem is that a camera does not capture one vital thing.... the GLOW of a snake... any snake! So I can't even make accurate comparisons with pictures. The albino pastel female that was born today also is not nearly as contrasted/vibrant as the male.

Either way, I definitely need to hold some of these animals back and figure out what the heck is going on here. I think that I need to hold back one of my possible "super" males and breed him to a normal female that is long term captive (which I have!). If I get all pastel's from that breeding, that will be a big help as to determining the exact way that this gene plays out. Is it incomplete dominant, like the pastel ball python? Or is it dominant, and simply has large amounts of variation between animals of the same morph, but no true super form? Maybe selective breeding for brighter pastels yields brighter babies and i got really lucky to get them so early on. Only time will tell.

[Jeff B]

To Clarify- Okay fine I will start calling them Pastel's. but here is my disclaimer THESE ARE NOT NEW OR DIFFERENT THAN WHAT EVERYONE ELSE CALLS HYPO'S they are the same morph. Haha.

And the ones that I am talking about are the babies that I have just produced. I also have a really light one kind of like the ones you have (not related to my other snakes)

I am at work on my break so i cant really elaborate much further

Hey you produce them, you can call them what ever your little heart desires sweetheart and you won't hear any complaints from me either way I personally don't really care as much what they are called.... as much as I care about what they do and how they react with other genes, ect, ect.
As with most nomenclature theres usually a lot of /təˈmɑːtoʊ/ and /təˈmeɪtoʊ/ or is a closer resemblence to this gene name type or this other gene name type, ect ect
It's all good discussion but we are just guessing and putting generic labels on things that we DON"T REALLY KNOW EXACTLY whats going on, we just know what we see, and sometimes we don't even see the same thing so can't even agree on that, lol

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

we managed to post at the exact same time... haha!

[Spankenstyne]

I think we're pretty much all in agreement. Only time & more breeding will tell what we're looking at, but as in my first reply on this thread I do think it's possible the extra light ones could be an "extreme" or "super" form of this pastel/hypo/uberwhatchamacallit which is why they look so different. I've held back some of the pastel looking ones including a male from last year and a female from this year so if all goes well within the next couple years I should also be able to help narrow down what we have here & see if we can replicate what Shannon has.