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    Too be het, or not to be Het. That is the question.

    Here's my problem.
    I never saw the albino male T.radix lockup with Onespot. He has been the only male in there in the last 6 months. There was a different male in there 9 months ago.
    Considering they can store sperm for longer that 6 months I am feeling uncomfortable marking these babies as Het. Iowa albinos.
    What are your thoughts on this situation?
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    Re: Too be het, or not to be Het. That is the question.

    You never saw a lockup but did you see courting behavior when the albino was in there? Was there any courting behavior with the other male 9 months ago? Did she become gravid back then?

    I still think the chances aren't very good that the father of this litter is from the first male. Of course, there's always a chance that perhaps a few of them were sired by the first male but I would have doubts that they all are if you saw courting from the albino male.

    I saw a lot of serious courting for a lot of days with Miss Piggy and Flicker. I also didn't see a lock up but I am seeing some seriously convincing signs that she is gravid. With northwesterns there's a pretty good chance that not all the babies will be his, but certainly the majority of them should be.
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    Re: Too be het, or not to be Het. That is the question.

    tough call Steve-o...but if the albino was the last male in with her theres a good chance....but you know now your gonna have to prove them out, good luck

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    Re: Too be het, or not to be Het. That is the question.

    If I was buying them, and Steve told me the situation, I think I would accept them as hets. The odds seem to favor that.
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    Re: Too be het, or not to be Het. That is the question.

    I would rule them as possible hets and explain the situations to the buyers.
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    Re: Too be het, or not to be Het. That is the question.

    Quote Originally Posted by BLUESIRTALIS View Post
    I would rule them as possible hets and explain the situations to the buyers.
    I endorse with this solution.
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    Re: Too be het, or not to be Het. That is the question.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    You never saw a lockup but did you see courting behavior when the albino was in there? Was there any courting behavior with the other male 9 months ago? Did she become gravid back then?
    Never saw a lock-up with either male. Never saw courting behavior either. She started putting on weight after the albino male was introduced.

    I told them not to lockup without me present. They appearently did listen.
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    Re: Too be het, or not to be Het. That is the question.

    I assume you meant "didn't" listen. Sounds like a pretty safe bet they are hets.
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    Re: Too be het, or not to be Het. That is the question.

    Quote Originally Posted by ConcinnusMan View Post
    I assume you meant "didn't" listen. Sounds like a pretty safe bet they are hets.
    *didn't listen
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