PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail - Page 2

mikm · 05-02-2007, 09:13 AM

'Stubbs' had (has had) a total of FOUR beautiul, robust babies, no stillborns. The first baby was waiting for me when I returned home from work approx 04:00 PM EST yesterday. The individual pic is of that first one. I left the three babies in her tank with her last night (20L) when I went to bed. This morning I fetched the 'three' out. About an hour later I saw a 'fourth' so I am assuming the last one was born this morning sometime. Also this morning was the very first time (since yesterday) that 'Stubbs' has ventured out from within the 'birthing log' to the 'lounging log', lol. They (the MaMa's) stopped feeding about 10-14 days ago though I offered food right up until last Friday. Not sure when either of them (adults) last shed. I am not quite as meticulous as most in regards to keeping records on them and such. I am sure the babies all obviously shed as I stumbled upon the first little one's shed and afterbirth trail upon arriving home. This litter is more robust then #1's. By comparison size wise, this second batch looks like litter #1 after a good meal. The overall head size is (visually) the same. Litter #2 appears 'richer' overall then #1. Not sure why that is exactly however as I previously stated 'Stubbs' appears 'seasoned' for lack of a better term. 'Proud MaMa' is a very beautiful snake, rich color and all so perhaps she's younger or maybe 'Stubbs' is a genetically better suited breeder ??? In other words if I were selling both MaMa's I suspect most would select 'Proud MaMa' over 'Stubbs'. Without further adieu ===>

Cazador · 05-02-2007, 11:10 AM

Good looking young ones there, Marian. Is it just my computer, or do they seem to be a bit more blue in the group photos?

Rick

Thamnophis · 05-02-2007, 11:49 AM

Blue is a very fine snake-color.

mikm · 05-02-2007, 11:49 AM

Yup Rick they sure are ... None of these have pale belly color either. 'Funny' that in the group pic the camera picked up 'blue' before I noticed it.

Looking forward to seeing pics of other litters ...

enjoy your day,
marian

Snaky · 05-02-2007, 04:07 PM

Very nice babies! ( a little jealous...

)

drache · 05-02-2007, 04:37 PM

beautiful babies
more than a little jealous, I admit

Cazador · 05-02-2007, 04:44 PM

I'm curious how quickly they turn blue. Roy had bought some very small Pugets last year that were already very blue. Weren't they about 4-5" long Roy?

adamanteus · 05-02-2007, 04:59 PM

Here's another interesting point to note....Small species (or sub-species)- comparitively few but large babies. Larger species- comparitively small babies but larger numbers. Incidentally, the same is true of spiders.

Any comments/observations?

mikm · 05-02-2007, 06:16 PM

Roy, Your Puget babies were blue from the start and small ?? How many times had they fed before you got them or how old were they ??? Do you recall ??? Any info is most appreciated

.

James, that is very interesting ... I would expect smaller litters but the size (large) I find curious ???

mikm · 05-02-2007, 06:26 PM

There's no way you 'guys' can be jealous of these few darlings when I have seen posts of all the sweet stuff you folks keep !!!

much thanks for the kind words !!!

marian

05-02-2007, 09:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
mikm Subadult snake Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 355 Country:	Re: PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail 'Stubbs' had (has had) a total of FOUR beautiul, robust babies, no stillborns. The first baby was waiting for me when I returned home from work approx 04:00 PM EST yesterday. The individual pic is of that first one. I left the three babies in her tank with her last night (20L) when I went to bed. This morning I fetched the 'three' out. About an hour later I saw a 'fourth' so I am assuming the last one was born this morning sometime. Also this morning was the very first time (since yesterday) that 'Stubbs' has ventured out from within the 'birthing log' to the 'lounging log', lol. They (the MaMa's) stopped feeding about 10-14 days ago though I offered food right up until last Friday. Not sure when either of them (adults) last shed. I am not quite as meticulous as most in regards to keeping records on them and such. I am sure the babies all obviously shed as I stumbled upon the first little one's shed and afterbirth trail upon arriving home. This litter is more robust then #1's. By comparison size wise, this second batch looks like litter #1 after a good meal. The overall head size is (visually) the same. Litter #2 appears 'richer' overall then #1. Not sure why that is exactly however as I previously stated 'Stubbs' appears 'seasoned' for lack of a better term. 'Proud MaMa' is a very beautiful snake, rich color and all so perhaps she's younger or maybe 'Stubbs' is a genetically better suited breeder ??? In other words if I were selling both MaMa's I suspect most would select 'Proud MaMa' over 'Stubbs'. Without further adieu ===>

05-02-2007, 11:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,608 Country:	Re: PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail Good looking young ones there, Marian. Is it just my computer, or do they seem to be a bit more blue in the group photos? Rick

05-02-2007, 11:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
Thamnophis Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,313 Country:	Re: PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail Blue is a very fine snake-color. __________________ Kousebandslangen.nl - Member of the EGSA It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner. Frank Zappa

05-02-2007, 11:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
mikm Subadult snake Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 355 Country:	Re: PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail Yup Rick they sure are ... None of these have pale belly color either. 'Funny' that in the group pic the camera picked up 'blue' before I noticed it. Looking forward to seeing pics of other litters ... enjoy your day, marian

05-02-2007, 04:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
Snaky "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,635 Country:	Re: PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail Very nice babies! ( a little jealous... )

05-02-2007, 04:37 PM	#16 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 3,992 Country:	Re: PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail beautiful babies more than a little jealous, I admit __________________ rhea

05-02-2007, 04:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,608 Country:	Re: PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail I'm curious how quickly they turn blue. Roy had bought some very small Pugets last year that were already very blue. Weren't they about 4-5" long Roy?

05-02-2007, 04:59 PM	#18 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 7,983 Country:	Re: PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail Here's another interesting point to note....Small species (or sub-species)- comparitively few but large babies. Larger species- comparitively small babies but larger numbers. Incidentally, the same is true of spiders. Any comments/observations? __________________ James.

05-02-2007, 06:16 PM	#19 (permalink)
mikm Subadult snake Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 355 Country:	Re: PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail Roy, Your Puget babies were blue from the start and small ?? How many times had they fed before you got them or how old were they ??? Do you recall ??? Any info is most appreciated . James, that is very interesting ... I would expect smaller litters but the size (large) I find curious ???

05-02-2007, 06:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
mikm Subadult snake Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 355 Country:	Re: PUGET BABIES #2 _ Stubby Tail There's no way you 'guys' can be jealous of these few darlings when I have seen posts of all the *sweet* stuff you folks keep !!! much thanks for the kind words !!! marian

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