Breeding ages...

KITKAT · 05-03-2007, 10:44 AM

OK... I know most garters can breed at 1 - 2 years for their first time... but does anyone here have experience with breeding OLDER garters? What is the oldest female that has delivered a litter? What is the oldest male that has produced young?

I have a lovely infernalis female named Ivory. I don't know her age. She was sold to me on Kingsnake and I bought her sight unseen, as the owner stated she was a nice flame and the price was unbelievably low. When I received her, I opened up the box and immediately knew she was no sirtalis, then almost immediately knew she was an adult CA Red sided.

Well... I tried for about a year to find a male for her, and could not find one that was an adult. Gave up and gave her to a friend... I think this was in '04. Sadly, my friend passed away in September, and I "inherited" her back again.

I wonder if she is now too old to breed? Any ideas?

adamanteus · 05-03-2007, 12:55 PM

The oldest female Garter I have ever bred from was eight years old. As for older males, I can't remember.

Gijs & Sabine · 05-04-2007, 04:24 PM

My large plains female is getting old. I bought her in 2001 and at that time I think she was 2 or 3 years old. So that means she must be 9 or 10 years old. Last year she gave birth to 55 babies, 2 died and the others were doing very well !! And at this time she also gravid and she is doing excellent. She is very active, eats a lot and looks very beautifull ( nice deep orange stripe) and she is 47 inch.

adamanteus · 05-04-2007, 04:27 PM

She is a very beautiful girl. I wasn't suggesting that eight years is any kind of deadline....only saying that's the oldest female I have ever bred from. I'm sure she'll produce many lovely babies!

Cazador · 05-04-2007, 05:44 PM

The oldest concinnus that I've successfully bred was only about 7 or 8, not a record by any means. I'm sure it's possible to breed them older, I just haven't done so.

Rick

05-03-2007, 10:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
KITKAT "Fourth shed, A Success" Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 820 Country:	Breeding ages... OK... I know most garters can breed at 1 - 2 years for their first time... but does anyone here have experience with breeding OLDER garters? What is the oldest female that has delivered a litter? What is the oldest male that has produced young? I have a lovely infernalis female named Ivory. I don't know her age. She was sold to me on Kingsnake and I bought her sight unseen, as the owner stated she was a nice flame and the price was unbelievably low. When I received her, I opened up the box and immediately knew she was no sirtalis, then almost immediately knew she was an adult CA Red sided. Well... I tried for about a year to find a male for her, and could not find one that was an adult. Gave up and gave her to a friend... I think this was in '04. Sadly, my friend passed away in September, and I "inherited" her back again. I wonder if she is now too old to breed? Any ideas? __________________ KitKat "Acts of kindness should never be random."

05-03-2007, 12:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: Breeding ages... The oldest female Garter I have ever bred from was eight years old. As for older males, I can't remember. __________________ James.

05-04-2007, 04:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gijs & Sabine "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kudelstaart Posts: 525 Country:	Re: Breeding ages... My large plains female is getting old. I bought her in 2001 and at that time I think she was 2 or 3 years old. So that means she must be 9 or 10 years old. Last year she gave birth to 55 babies, 2 died and the others were doing very well !! And at this time she also gravid and she is doing excellent. She is very active, eats a lot and looks very beautifull ( nice deep orange stripe) and she is 47 inch.

05-04-2007, 04:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: Breeding ages... She is a very beautiful girl. I wasn't suggesting that eight years is any kind of deadline....only saying that's the oldest female I have ever bred from. I'm sure she'll produce many lovely babies! __________________ James.

05-04-2007, 05:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,608 Country:	Re: Breeding ages... The oldest concinnus that I've successfully bred was only about 7 or 8, not a record by any means. I'm sure it's possible to breed them older, I just haven't done so. Rick

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