first babies this year !!!

Gijs & Sabine · 05-13-2007, 03:54 PM

The first babies were born yesterday, sirtalis sirtalis. There are 24 very active babies and unfortunately 4 misshaped (don't know if that's the correct word)
The mom is doing great and started to eat right away today.

and one of the misshaped ones

adamanteus · 05-13-2007, 04:03 PM

Congratulations! 24 beautiful babies! Is the deformed baby in the picture dead? It's a shame, but with such a high birth rate I suppose defects are inevitable. Were all 4 deformed babies similar in their deformities?

Gijs & Sabine · 05-13-2007, 04:18 PM

So it's called DEFORMED, thnx for that James.
The deformities were similar with all the 4 babies and, that's the hardest, they were not dead

But everybody can understand that these babies didn't have any change on a good live, so I had to put them in the freezer.

adamanteus · 05-13-2007, 04:22 PM

Nothing else you could do. Did you read this thread?

Siamese/ 2 headed snakes

I wrote about a deformed T.radix haydenii I once had (post #6). I would be interested to read of other peoples experiences with birth defective snakes which survived.

Gijs & Sabine · 05-13-2007, 04:40 PM

Yes, I already read it. It would be interesting indeed, but where do you make the line wether to keep them alive or not. In your case the plains didn't seem to have any problems, but I think my baby easterns did, becouse they were not able to move.

This kind of conversation is hard for me in english, becouse I can't express myself very good

I hope you get my point.

adamanteus · 05-13-2007, 04:43 PM

I understand you very well. I think you were absolutely right in your choice to euthanize those snakes. They had no chance of survival. I wasn't trying to critisize, I would have done the same thing. I am just interested to know of other peoples experiences.

Sid · 05-13-2007, 06:27 PM

Beautiful little ones. I had 16 T. s. sirtalis born last 4th of July and 1 had the same deformity as your did

. It was added to the freezer too. I felt it was the most humane thing.

Sid

ssssnakeluvr · 05-13-2007, 08:49 PM

I had a w/c red sider that had 24 babies, 3 had extremely shortened lower jaws...had to put them down, kinda hard to eat with no lower jaw.

Cazador · 05-13-2007, 11:46 PM

Sabine,

Congratulations! I don't think anyone would presume to second-guess the decision that another makes to euthanize an injured/malformed snake. It's a personal decision that has to be made with the best interest of each, individual snake in mind. Thanks for including all of these pictures. They're all wonderful.

Rick

chloe · 05-14-2007, 01:46 AM

Congratulations, beautiful babies

05-13-2007, 03:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gijs & Sabine "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kudelstaart Posts: 525 Country:	first babies this year !!! The first babies were born yesterday, sirtalis sirtalis. There are 24 very active babies and unfortunately 4 misshaped (don't know if that's the correct word) The mom is doing great and started to eat right away today. and one of the misshaped ones

05-13-2007, 04:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: first babies this year !!! Congratulations! 24 beautiful babies! Is the deformed baby in the picture dead? It's a shame, but with such a high birth rate I suppose defects are inevitable. Were all 4 deformed babies similar in their deformities? __________________ James.

05-13-2007, 04:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gijs & Sabine "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kudelstaart Posts: 525 Country:	Re: first babies this year !!! So it's called DEFORMED, thnx for that James. The deformities were similar with all the 4 babies and, that's the hardest, they were not dead But everybody can understand that these babies didn't have any change on a good live, so I had to put them in the freezer.

05-13-2007, 04:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: first babies this year !!! Nothing else you could do. Did you read this thread? Siamese/ 2 headed snakes I wrote about a deformed T.radix haydenii I once had (post #6). I would be interested to read of other peoples experiences with birth defective snakes which survived. __________________ James.

05-13-2007, 04:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gijs & Sabine "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kudelstaart Posts: 525 Country:	Re: first babies this year !!! Yes, I already read it. It would be interesting indeed, but where do you make the line wether to keep them alive or not. In your case the plains didn't seem to have any problems, but I think my baby easterns did, becouse they were not able to move. This kind of conversation is hard for me in english, becouse I can't express myself very good I hope you get my point.

05-13-2007, 04:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: first babies this year !!! I understand you very well. I think you were absolutely right in your choice to euthanize those snakes. They had no chance of survival. I wasn't trying to critisize, I would have done the same thing. I am just interested to know of other peoples experiences. __________________ James.

05-13-2007, 06:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sid Thamnophis Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,360 Country:	Re: first babies this year !!! Beautiful little ones. I had 16 T. s. sirtalis born last 4th of July and 1 had the same deformity as your did . It was added to the freezer too. I felt it was the most humane thing. Sid

05-13-2007, 08:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,478 Country:	Re: first babies this year !!! I had a w/c red sider that had 24 babies, 3 had extremely shortened lower jaws...had to put them down, kinda hard to eat with no lower jaw.

05-13-2007, 11:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cazador Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,608 Country:	Re: first babies this year !!! Sabine, Congratulations! I don't think anyone would presume to second-guess the decision that another makes to euthanize an injured/malformed snake. It's a personal decision that has to be made with the best interest of each, individual snake in mind. Thanks for including all of these pictures. They're all wonderful. Rick

05-14-2007, 01:46 AM	#10 (permalink)
chloe Juvenile snake Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: N. Wales Posts: 136 Country:	Re: first babies this year !!! Congratulations, beautiful babies

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