anytime girls!!!

[otis lee]

wc albino eastern garter.
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het albino checkered .her 2nd year!hetXhet.

[otis lee]

albino checkered garter.this is her 3rd year!!albinoXhet

[Stefan-A]

This is so exciting.

Is that how you normally house them, or is that just where you keep them where they are about to give birth?

[adamanteus]

Looks like you're going to be another one with millions of babies soon! Congratulations.

[Snaky]

Be sure to post some picture's of the outcome
Good luck with it

[otis lee]

i put them in this to bring them in the house.i do keep a male/babys in them sometimes.they clean fast and i can see in them great.i have a metal stand that holds 6 20gallon long tanks for pairs and trio's.i also like the half tall 10 gallon tanks too.
the albino Xered had 8 1st year,7 the next and i think she will have like 10 this year.i candle light the albinos like you would a egg.
do any of you that breed the albino Xereds have albino's that dont start out as the better feeders.they seem to take a little longer to get started. i have only breed hetXalbino to make albinos.

[otis lee]

the eastern had them at 4 o'clock today!no albinos.
2 or 3 slugs
1 very sm. that opened its mouth a few times but did not move or breath.
the last 1 was dead probly from the pushing.
1 with a sm kink on neck and a sm. left eye.
aaaannnndddd
13 perfect baby hets!!!!some ate worms 2 hours after birth!!!

[abcat1993]

Wow, congrats. What are the chances of not having any albinos with a het (proven?) and an albino?

[KITKAT]

Originally Posted by abcat1993

Wow, congrats. What are the chances of not having any albinos with a het (proven?) and an albino?

The genetic symbol for albino is c, and non-albino is C.

Cc is a het

cc is an albino

Cc x cc = 50% (chance of) Cc and 50% (chance of) cc

HOWEVER... I have a current theory that perhaps some of the garters that are identified as albinos, are not albinos. Bear with me...

Scott Felzer, for example, has two strains of "albino". Yet, when one strain is bred to the other, non-albinos are produced.

I assume he has identified his two strains as albino because they have red/pink eyes, as well as lighter body color. However, there is another gene that can make red eyes in some animals (such as mice). This gene is called "Dilute".

In a dilute mouse, the eyes are red, and the coat color is lighter than normal, but the mouse is not white.

Dilute is notated d and non-dilute is notated D.

If a dilute garter exists, and were bred to a non-dilute, the results would be like this:

DD x dd = 100% chance Dd (hets).

However, if a dilute (non-albino) were bred to an albino (non-dilute), the results could look like this:

ccDD x CCdd = CcDd 100% chance

And since only the capitalized letter (dominant trait) is visible in the young, all babies would appear to be "normal", but would all be double het.

(Which is what I suspect is happening to Felzer's two "albino" strains, when bred to each other).

Of course, since ODNR thinks I should not be allowed to ever own a plains garter, even though the source is provable as non-Ohio... I guess I'll never get to experiment to see if I can prove my theory!

[otis lee]

both parents where WC from the same ky horse barn . i was just hoping the normal male was het.scotts albinos are not compatible,but are true albinos just diff.lines .its like the hypo/ghost morph in ball pythons.