A Few Questions

MoJo · 05-27-2007, 08:29 PM

Do Garters shed before they give birth? Tiger, my Eastern Blackneck (I know you guys are great about using their scientific names but I can barely pronounce T cyrtopsis ocellatus, let alone spell it), shed 8 days ago, stopped eating about 3 weeks ago and now does not look that big. I never saw her mating or any kind of plug but I sure thought she was getting fat and acting gravid. Now I have no idea what is going on.

Cheetah on the other hand I saw mating but she is already refusing food and as far as I can tell is only about 40 days into her gestation. She is not a very big girl although now she is busting out all over. I will try and give her pinkies and see if she will eat small prey but I have a feeling she has decided she is off food!

I will try and get photos of the girls tomorrow.

Thanks,
Joanna

garterchick · 05-27-2007, 09:20 PM

hey joanna
sounds like you and i have some similar problems, see my thread "labor". looking foreward to the pictures of your girls.
tina

adamanteus · 05-28-2007, 01:54 AM

Hi Joanna, try to be patient, just treat her as you normally would (maybe smaller food items). She'll give birth when she's good and ready.

MoJo · 05-28-2007, 09:50 PM

Thanks James. Patience is definitely not one of my virtues!

Here are my girls. If I did this right Tiger, the girl I thought was going to give birth any day, should be first. Looking at her now I am really wondering if she is gravid.

Next up is Cheetah. I am pretty sure she is gravid since I did see her mating! She is also huge and only about 41 days from the day I saw her mating.

Finally I took a photo of Clementine my largest girl who I really did not think could be gravid but I thought I saw a lump move! Maybe I am just beginning to hallucinate!

I will post some more photos of the girls and their mate, Billy the Kid another night. I am computered out for now!

Any input on whether these girls look gravid would be welcome.

Joanna

stonyloam · 05-28-2007, 10:03 PM

Those are GREAT photos!! What did you use for lighting?

Stefan-A · 05-28-2007, 11:20 PM

Very nice photos of some very pretty snakes, Joanna.

garterchick · 05-29-2007, 08:48 AM

those are awsome-looking snakes, joanna.
tina

adamanteus · 05-29-2007, 11:09 AM

Hi Joanna, they all look very gravid to me!

Snaky · 05-29-2007, 11:50 AM

To me they also look all gravid. Very nice animals!

MoJo · 05-29-2007, 01:10 PM

Thanks all. If they are all truly gravid then I am very impressed with this little boy. Clementine is at least 3 feet and a huge garter - she eats large mice without a problem. He looked like a worm next to her!

I will be sure to post photos if there are babies.

The photos are taken with a combination of natural light and daylight fluorescent bulbs. I also put the snakes in a fabric "box" or light tent to diffuse the light. As I said before - it really helps that my husband is a photographer!

Joanna

05-27-2007, 08:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
MoJo "First shed, A Success" Join Date: May 2007 Location: MA Posts: 119 Country:	A Few Questions Do Garters shed before they give birth? Tiger, my Eastern Blackneck (I know you guys are great about using their scientific names but I can barely pronounce T cyrtopsis ocellatus, let alone spell it), shed 8 days ago, stopped eating about 3 weeks ago and now does not look that big. I never saw her mating or any kind of plug but I sure thought she was getting fat and acting gravid. Now I have no idea what is going on. Cheetah on the other hand I saw mating but she is already refusing food and as far as I can tell is only about 40 days into her gestation. She is not a very big girl although now she is busting out all over. I will try and give her pinkies and see if she will eat small prey but I have a feeling she has decided she is off food! I will try and get photos of the girls tomorrow. Thanks, Joanna

05-27-2007, 09:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
garterchick "First shed, A Success" Join Date: May 2007 Location: austin , texas Posts: 122 Country:	Re: A Few Questions hey joanna sounds like you and i have some similar problems, see my thread "labor". looking foreward to the pictures of your girls. tina

05-28-2007, 01:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: A Few Questions Hi Joanna, try to be patient, just treat her as you normally would (maybe smaller food items). She'll give birth when she's good and ready. __________________ James.

05-28-2007, 09:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
MoJo "First shed, A Success" Join Date: May 2007 Location: MA Posts: 119 Country:	Re: A Few Questions Thanks James. Patience is definitely not one of my virtues! Here are my girls. If I did this right Tiger, the girl I thought was going to give birth any day, should be first. Looking at her now I am really wondering if she is gravid. Next up is Cheetah. I am pretty sure she is gravid since I did see her mating! She is also huge and only about 41 days from the day I saw her mating. Finally I took a photo of Clementine my largest girl who I really did not think could be gravid but I thought I saw a lump move! Maybe I am just beginning to hallucinate! I will post some more photos of the girls and their mate, Billy the Kid another night. I am computered out for now! Any input on whether these girls look gravid would be welcome. Joanna

05-28-2007, 10:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
stonyloam "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western NY Posts: 490 Country:	Re: A Few Questions Those are GREAT photos!! What did you use for lighting? __________________ Terry

05-28-2007, 11:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 4,146 Country:	Re: A Few Questions Very nice photos of some very pretty snakes, Joanna. __________________ Natura non contristatur

05-29-2007, 08:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
garterchick "First shed, A Success" Join Date: May 2007 Location: austin , texas Posts: 122 Country:	Re: A Few Questions those are awsome-looking snakes, joanna. tina

05-29-2007, 11:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: A Few Questions Hi Joanna, they all look very gravid to me! __________________ James.

05-29-2007, 11:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
Snaky "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,468 Country:	Re: A Few Questions To me they also look all gravid. Very nice animals!

05-29-2007, 01:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
MoJo "First shed, A Success" Join Date: May 2007 Location: MA Posts: 119 Country:	Re: A Few Questions Thanks all. If they are all truly gravid then I am very impressed with this little boy. Clementine is at least 3 feet and a huge garter - she eats large mice without a problem. He looked like a worm next to her! I will be sure to post photos if there are babies. The photos are taken with a combination of natural light and daylight fluorescent bulbs. I also put the snakes in a fabric "box" or light tent to diffuse the light. As I said before - it really helps that my husband is a photographer! Joanna

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