Yet another project - Page 12

adamanteus · 02-28-2008, 04:01 PM

Melamine is a good option for vivs with high humidity, provided all joints are properly sealed. I've been using nothing else for many years, and it works for me.

aSnakeLovinBabe · 02-28-2008, 04:01 PM

oh and i'm sure you guys know this but it's important that you replace a UV-emitting light source every 6 months. After that point the UV radiation starts to wear off. the bulb may still light, but there's no beneficial UV coming out of it.

adamanteus · 02-28-2008, 04:02 PM

Garters in captivity don't really need UV radiation though.

aSnakeLovinBabe · 02-28-2008, 04:22 PM

you don't think so? I dunno, i just feel that any reptile would naturally be recieving UV outside and so i provide it even to my garters. I have heard peole say they don't need it, but they seem more perky to me when they do. Either way though, for your other reptilians it is a good tip

adamanteus · 02-28-2008, 04:26 PM

I've never used UV for my Garters. Diurnal lizards I've kept in the past have always had UV lights, but generally speaking I don't provide it for my snakes at all. Except for a couple of African Sand Snakes I had... but then I fed them on live lizards, so the light was more for the prey.....

enigma200316 · 02-29-2008, 08:17 AM

I don't think they actually need it, but it helps with aesthetics......

Loren · 03-02-2008, 09:01 AM

I dont use uv for any snakes. I do for my diurnal lizards and my tortoises.
There are actually a few people I have come across online that claim they have raised and bred all sorts of diurnal lizards and tortoises without uv of any kind- and that they instead provide basking spots of 130-145 degrees F. with a good thermal gradient down to room temp. Takes a good size cage to allow for this obviously.
One of them has successfully raised and bred reptiles that way for about 15-20 years.
I'm not quite ready to try it myself though, need to do more research first.

Tori · 03-02-2008, 02:57 PM

James, you may have already thought of this. Have you considered coating the wood with non-toxic clear epoxy coating? That's what I have to use on my waterfall. It isn't cheap but you can get pretty good prices for it on Ebay. You can totally waterproof anything with it.

02-28-2008, 04:01 PM	#111 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: Yet another project Melamine is a good option for vivs with high humidity, provided all joints are properly sealed. I've been using nothing else for many years, and it works for me. __________________ James.

02-28-2008, 04:01 PM	#112 (permalink)
aSnakeLovinBabe "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 545 Country:	Re: Yet another project oh and i'm sure you guys know this but it's important that you replace a UV-emitting light source every 6 months. After that point the UV radiation starts to wear off. the bulb may still light, but there's no beneficial UV coming out of it. __________________ Shannon<3Nicole 7.10 assorted adult garters. infinity baby garters. that which does not kill me , can only make me stronger.

02-28-2008, 04:02 PM	#113 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: Yet another project Garters in captivity don't really need UV radiation though. __________________ James.

02-28-2008, 04:22 PM	#114 (permalink)
aSnakeLovinBabe "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 545 Country:	Re: Yet another project you don't think so? I dunno, i just feel that any reptile would naturally be recieving UV outside and so i provide it even to my garters. I have heard peole say they don't need it, but they seem more perky to me when they do. Either way though, for your other reptilians it is a good tip __________________ Shannon<3Nicole 7.10 assorted adult garters. infinity baby garters. that which does not kill me , can only make me stronger.

02-28-2008, 04:26 PM	#115 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 6,690 Country:	Re: Yet another project I've never used UV for my Garters. Diurnal lizards I've kept in the past have always had UV lights, but generally speaking I don't provide it for my snakes at all. Except for a couple of African Sand Snakes I had... but then I fed them on live lizards, so the light was more for the prey..... __________________ James.

02-29-2008, 08:17 AM	#116 (permalink)
enigma200316 Basilisk (The King of all Serpents) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Eastern, US Posts: 1,740 Country:	Re: Yet another project I don't think they actually need it, but it helps with aesthetics...... __________________ "Can't wait for World Meeting 2009" Justin... 0.0.1 parietalis 0.1.3 similis

03-02-2008, 09:01 AM	#117 (permalink)
Loren Subadult snake Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 372 Country:	Re: Yet another project I dont use uv for any snakes. I do for my diurnal lizards and my tortoises. There are actually a few people I have come across online that claim they have raised and bred all sorts of diurnal lizards and tortoises without uv of any kind- and that they instead provide basking spots of 130-145 degrees F. with a good thermal gradient down to room temp. Takes a good size cage to allow for this obviously. One of them has successfully raised and bred reptiles that way for about 15-20 years. I'm not quite ready to try it myself though, need to do more research first.

03-02-2008, 02:57 PM	#118 (permalink)
Tori Juvenile snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 181 Country:	Re: Yet another project James, you may have already thought of this. Have you considered coating the wood with non-toxic clear epoxy coating? That's what I have to use on my waterfall. It isn't cheap but you can get pretty good prices for it on Ebay. You can totally waterproof anything with it. __________________ Tori Remember: Marriage is the number one cause of divorce.

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