Its oh so quiet Shh Shh

[drache]

Stefan - you crack me up
Ingmar totally had that coming

btw
have you ever built a sauna?
I'm thinking I should do that before the snakes' outdoor habitat, because it'll be less complicated
right now I really want a Sauna

[Stefan-A]

Nope, never built one. Can't be complicated though, depending of course on which sauna style you're after.

[drache]

boy, did I just have a fright
I saw Layla, my black king lying upside-down right on the heat mat area and I thought she'd croaked
when I took her out, she looked horrible - pale and dull
then I took her to a better light and I saw that she's in shed - whew!
and she is otherwise fine as far as I can see
maybe she just wanted to warm her back?

[adamanteus]

That doesn't sound right to me, Rhea. I've never known a snake to lie on it's back unless it's unwell.

[Stefan-A]

I've heard of a few cases, where the snake has simply become disoriented. One was under a towel and another between sheets of newspaper bedding.

But it still doesn't sound right.

[drache]

I'm keeping an eye on her for sure
when I picked her up she felt fine (muscle tone and responsiveness)
also - I don't think she was upside down for very long
that tank is in plain view and I'd looked at something next to it earlier and when I saw her upside down, I saw right when I came into that room, which I'd been going in and out of all morning
earlier she'd just been buried in the bedding (care fresh)
do they get more easily disoriented when they're blind with shed?
I'm gonna check on her in the afternoon - make sure her moss is damp too

[ScimitarX]

1 of our female cali kings did that a few months back, i found her on her back, shes absolutely fine.

[drache]

I checked up on Layla a little while ago and she's still fine so far

[drache]

all the fun stuff you get to see on a cat food purchasing errand . . .
the Daily News was at the rescue, snapping a gazillion pics of a tiny frog on a lettuce leaf
a local family had found it in their organic lettuce today
it'd been in their fridge a while before they noticed it, but they're apparently good at misting their veggies, so the little guy is fine and now up for adoption
I must confess that I was sizing him up for food, before I realized he was going to be celebrity
I'm sure he's headed for a life of privilege

[adamanteus]

Originally Posted by drache

btw have you ever built a sauna?

I once had a hand in building a sauna.... well, I did the construction of the room and all the joinery (carpentry) work, as part of a house renovation in Scotland. It was actually pretty complicated from what I remember.
They can be dangerous if they're done wrong!