Happy Birthday to....

flakgunner · 08-23-2007, 02:24 PM

hey,

Well,,my Baby Western Fox Snake,will be turning a big!!#1,this week!!
Ripped from the jaws of Death!!Seconds away from being chopped in half!! at the hands of a spaded shovel.The oldest boy who has many Ball Python's,and has a few buddies,who themselves have pythons.It's one buddie who walked out into his back porchmto find his nieghbors ,screaming!!women ,screaming,KILL IT!!men searching for anything that looked like a weapon,the buddie had a good idea ,what was happening,run over and saw this little gem coiled up,no bigger than a half dollar,laying by some empty clay pots.
he was prepared for a Garter snake,and had no idea what this was,so with caution scooped it up into a empty pot,took it home and called my son,he quikly went over and he had no clue ,and quikly brought it to me,it took me all of a fraction of a second ,to know what this little beauty was,still sporting it egg tooth.

then measuring in at a whopping 12",yesterdays length,coming in at a robust,20 1/2"

Joe

Stefan-A · 08-23-2007, 02:28 PM

Happy birthday, Mr. Western Fox Snake.

Josh · 08-23-2007, 02:40 PM

may i say your aging well mr snake?

adamanteus · 08-23-2007, 02:46 PM

Just shows what I know! I would have sworn that was a Great Plains Ratsnake Pantherophis emoryi.

Stefan-A · 08-23-2007, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamanteus

Just shows what I know! I would have sworn that was a Great Plains Ratsnake Pantherophis emoryi.

It crossed my mind, too. But I know even less. It does look more like an Emory's/Great Plains ratsnake than any of the fox snakes I found with google.

adamanteus · 08-23-2007, 03:02 PM

As you know Stefan, I don't google.......did your search tell you that Fox Snakes have keeled scales and lack the head pattern distinctive to emoryi and guttata?

Stefan-A · 08-23-2007, 03:06 PM

No, but I noticed the difference the second I entered the words "Pantherophis vulpinus".

adamanteus · 08-23-2007, 03:09 PM

Well, I hate to 'rock the boat' but to me that's P. emoryi.

ssssnakeluvr · 08-23-2007, 08:49 PM

looks like emoryi to me also......

enigma200316 · 08-23-2007, 08:54 PM

Hey Joe love the poetry, and the snake kool also,
no matter what kind it is...I haven't a clue......

I'm still trying to figure out all the Garters......lol

08-23-2007, 02:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
flakgunner "First shed, A Success" Join Date: May 2007 Location: N.Illinois Posts: 110	Happy Birthday to.... hey, Well,,my Baby Western Fox Snake,will be turning a big!!#1,this week!! Ripped from the jaws of Death!!Seconds away from being chopped in half!! at the hands of a spaded shovel.The oldest boy who has many Ball Python's,and has a few buddies,who themselves have pythons.It's one buddie who walked out into his back porchmto find his nieghbors ,screaming!!women ,screaming,KILL IT!!men searching for anything that looked like a weapon,the buddie had a good idea ,what was happening,run over and saw this little gem coiled up,no bigger than a half dollar,laying by some empty clay pots. he was prepared for a Garter snake,and had no idea what this was,so with caution scooped it up into a empty pot,took it home and called my son,he quikly went over and he had no clue ,and quikly brought it to me,it took me all of a fraction of a second ,to know what this little beauty was,still sporting it egg tooth. then measuring in at a whopping 12",yesterdays length,coming in at a robust,20 1/2" Joe

08-23-2007, 02:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Stefan-A Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 6,264	Re: Happy Birthday to.... Happy birthday, Mr. Western Fox Snake.

08-23-2007, 02:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Josh Thamnophis Collectus Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: wilkes barre Posts: 1,143	Re: Happy Birthday to.... may i say your aging well mr snake? __________________ Josh *0.1 T. radix*

08-23-2007, 02:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,906	Re: Happy Birthday to.... Just shows what I know! I would have sworn that was a Great Plains Ratsnake Pantherophis emoryi. __________________ James.

08-23-2007, 03:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,906	Re: Happy Birthday to.... As you know Stefan, I don't google.......did your search tell you that Fox Snakes have keeled scales and lack the head pattern distinctive to emoryi and guttata? __________________ James.

08-23-2007, 03:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Stefan-A Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 6,264	Re: Happy Birthday to.... No, but I noticed the difference the second I entered the words "Pantherophis vulpinus".

08-23-2007, 03:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,906	Re: Happy Birthday to.... Well, I hate to 'rock the boat' but to me that's P. emoryi. __________________ James.

08-23-2007, 08:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,387	Re: Happy Birthday to.... looks like emoryi to me also......

08-23-2007, 08:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
enigma200316 Basilisk (The King of all Serpents) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: northwestern, PA Posts: 1,908	Re: Happy Birthday to.... Hey Joe love the poetry, and the snake kool also, no matter what kind it is...I haven't a clue...... I'm still trying to figure out all the Garters......lol __________________ Justin 1.1 similis 0.0.1 parietalis 1.0 sirtalis

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