Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum

Pinky · 09-01-2007, 06:30 PM

Does anybody here keep this particular subspecies of milk snake or know of anyone who does? i've been wanting to get my hands on one but have had a hard enough time trying to find garter snakes lately
!any suggestions on where i should look for these buggers?

stonyloam · 09-01-2007, 09:42 PM

They show up around and in my house every now and then. They are pretty common in western NY, so I would think that they would be relatively easy to find in Ontario. They seem to like the same habitat as garters, under rocks and boards ect. They also seem to like to get into old stone basements and walls, you could ask around farm country, I'll bet you could find some old barns and outbuildings (with laid up stone foundations) that are loaded with them. This years babies should be hatching about now. Good luck

Pinky · 09-01-2007, 09:49 PM

Thanks alot Terry I'm gonna try...it's funny you mentioned old stone basements because our house has an old stone foundation with some minor cracks and we of course get mice constantly!but i have yet to see a single snake of any species here!what a bummer!!!

Pinky · 09-05-2007, 07:59 PM

Well i thought i found the perfict spot!an old abandoned barn foundation!my 2 boys and I turned over rock after rock but no sign of ANYTHING!!!we're just not having any luck finding snakes lately!

enigma200316 · 09-06-2007, 10:36 AM

well I just might be able to help you, I just rescued one from my cousins house and I say rescue because if it wasn't for me it would most likely have met its end.....it is a baby and is like 10 inches long if I can get it
to take food and eat normaly maybe we could work something out......

GarterGuy · 09-06-2007, 11:20 AM

Ummm....not to be a pain here, but it is illegal to sell native PA species and if you sell it across state lines you're also in vilation of the Lacy Act I believe....sorry.

Roy

enigma200316 · 09-06-2007, 11:23 AM

[quote=GarterGuy;25179]Ummm....not to be a pain here, but it is illegal to sell native PA species and if you sell it across state lines you're also in vilation of the Lacy Act I believe....sorry.

well what if I were to give it or trade it away?? or is that still considered selling???

GarterGuy · 09-06-2007, 11:33 AM

Hmmmm...not sure how that works. I'll have to dig out the regs. and take a look at them. Unfortunately though I do think it still falls under the Lacy Act, because the animal is going to be crossing state and international lines. Here's a link with what the Lacy Act is all about. Lacey Act Only reason I know about this is because I contacted the Maine Fish and Game people about any regs. for going up there and collecting some Maritime garters (before I could find any anywhere else) and they had said that if I had transported them out of state that I would be in violation of the Lacy Act.

Pinky · 09-06-2007, 07:10 PM

So many different laws!!!!!also, what about it having to cross the boarder, is that illegal as well?I REALLY appreciate your offer tho!

Pinky · 09-06-2007, 07:23 PM

Hey Justin, I just saw ur pics of the little guy, looks pretty good!

09-01-2007, 06:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pinky Juvenile snake Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 177	Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum Does anybody here keep this particular subspecies of milk snake or know of anyone who does? i've been wanting to get my hands on one but have had a hard enough time trying to find garter snakes lately !any suggestions on where i should look for these buggers? __________________ Marc & Marie

09-01-2007, 09:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
stonyloam "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western NY Posts: 521	Re: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum They show up around and in my house every now and then. They are pretty common in western NY, so I would think that they would be relatively easy to find in Ontario. They seem to like the same habitat as garters, under rocks and boards ect. They also seem to like to get into old stone basements and walls, you could ask around farm country, I'll bet you could find some old barns and outbuildings (with laid up stone foundations) that are loaded with them. This years babies should be hatching about now. Good luck __________________ Terry

09-01-2007, 09:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pinky Juvenile snake Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 177	Re: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum Thanks alot Terry I'm gonna try...it's funny you mentioned old stone basements because our house has an old stone foundation with some minor cracks and we of course get mice constantly!but i have yet to see a single snake of any species here!what a bummer!!! __________________ Marc & Marie

09-05-2007, 07:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pinky Juvenile snake Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 177	Re: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum Well i thought i found the perfict spot!an old abandoned barn foundation!my 2 boys and I turned over rock after rock but no sign of ANYTHING!!!we're just not having any luck finding snakes lately! __________________ Marc & Marie

09-06-2007, 10:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
enigma200316 Basilisk (The King of all Serpents) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: northwestern, PA Posts: 1,908	Re: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum well I just might be able to help you, I just rescued one from my cousins house and I say rescue because if it wasn't for me it would most likely have met its end.....it is a baby and is like 10 inches long if I can get it to take food and eat normaly maybe we could work something out...... __________________ Justin 1.1 similis 0.0.1 parietalis 1.0 sirtalis

09-06-2007, 11:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,356	Re: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum Ummm....not to be a pain here, but it is illegal to sell native PA species and if you sell it across state lines you're also in vilation of the Lacy Act I believe....sorry. Roy __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

09-06-2007, 11:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
enigma200316 Basilisk (The King of all Serpents) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: northwestern, PA Posts: 1,908	Re: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum [quote=GarterGuy;25179]Ummm....not to be a pain here, but it is illegal to sell native PA species and if you sell it across state lines you're also in vilation of the Lacy Act I believe....sorry. well what if I were to give it or trade it away?? or is that still considered selling??? __________________ Justin 1.1 similis 0.0.1 parietalis 1.0 sirtalis

09-06-2007, 11:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,356	Re: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum Hmmmm...not sure how that works. I'll have to dig out the regs. and take a look at them. Unfortunately though I do think it still falls under the Lacy Act, because the animal is going to be crossing state and international lines. Here's a link with what the Lacy Act is all about. Lacey Act Only reason I know about this is because I contacted the Maine Fish and Game people about any regs. for going up there and collecting some Maritime garters (before I could find any anywhere else) and they had said that if I had transported them out of state that I would be in violation of the Lacy Act. __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

09-06-2007, 07:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Pinky Juvenile snake Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 177	Re: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum So many different laws!!!!!also, what about it having to cross the boarder, is that illegal as well?I REALLY appreciate your offer tho! __________________ Marc & Marie

09-06-2007, 07:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pinky Juvenile snake Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 177	Re: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum Hey Justin, I just saw ur pics of the little guy, looks pretty good! __________________ Marc & Marie

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