Anyone ever heard these?

Serpentine99 · 11-16-2007, 05:34 PM

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has anyone ever heard of these species. i suspect the seller bought some foreign reptile from a shaky source.

RZL36 · 11-16-2007, 07:11 PM

No, they are native to the Southern United States. Pretty cool snakes. Rear fanged, but pretty harmless.

I like Eastern Hogs like the Jersey ones, but do not keep them b/c their food source (basically just frogs and they are pretty expensive in my area.). They actually have been known to get sick when fed rodents. Kinda the opposite of what talk about in regards to garters.

sschind · 11-16-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RZL36

They actually have been known to get sick when fed rodents.

Do you have a link to the source of this information? I'm just curious as I have had several eastern hogs, some for quite a few years and they seemed to be fine on a rodent diet.

RZL36 · 11-16-2007, 09:31 PM

From Hognose.com: "Eastern hognosed snakes are the most difficult of the Heterodon species to breed and maintain. Primarily amphibian eaters, Heterodon platirhinos can be trained to accept rodents. However, there is some evidence that prolonged feeding of mammals to Eastern hognosed snakes may result in death from fatty liver disease. Parasites are also a significant cause in the death of many easterns."

Stefan-A · 11-16-2007, 09:31 PM

I've just read that Heterodon simus is exclusively a toad eater. Never even heard that they would actually get sick from eating rodents.

edit: Just checked the book, it says the same about Heterodon platyrhinos.

sschind · 11-16-2007, 10:22 PM

Thanks,

I wasn't doubting you by the way, I just wanted more info.

RZL36 · 11-17-2007, 10:21 AM

I didn't think that you were. I've heard of people who have kept platirhinos on a diet of mice with little effect. Wasn't trying to be snide, just wanted to get the info to ya.

Serpentine99 · 11-17-2007, 01:53 PM

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Sorry guys it looks like i posted the wrong link i actually wanted to know what these snakes were not the hognoses

adamanteus · 11-17-2007, 01:58 PM

It's an African Sand Snake, genus Psammophylax, I believe.

Serpentine99 · 11-17-2007, 02:01 PM

oh ok have you ever heard them called that before?
Skaapsters?

11-16-2007, 05:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Serpentine99 Subadult snake Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chester County, PA Posts: 303 Country:	Anyone ever heard these? kingsnake.com Classifieds has anyone ever heard of these species. i suspect the seller bought some foreign reptile from a shaky source. __________________ Quadruple Sport Enthusiast Wrestling Track Soccer Cross Country

11-16-2007, 07:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
RZL36 Subadult snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shores of Jersey Posts: 331 Country:	Re: Anyone ever heard these? No, they are native to the Southern United States. Pretty cool snakes. Rear fanged, but pretty harmless. I like Eastern Hogs like the Jersey ones, but do not keep them b/c their food source (basically just frogs and they are pretty expensive in my area.). They actually have been known to get sick when fed rodents. Kinda the opposite of what talk about in regards to garters. __________________ Rich

11-16-2007, 09:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
RZL36 Subadult snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shores of Jersey Posts: 331 Country:	Re: Anyone ever heard these? From Hognose.com: "Eastern hognosed snakes are the most difficult of the Heterodon species to breed and maintain. Primarily amphibian eaters, Heterodon platirhinos can be trained to accept rodents. However, there is some evidence that prolonged feeding of mammals to Eastern hognosed snakes may result in death from fatty liver disease. Parasites are also a significant cause in the death of many easterns." __________________ Rich

11-16-2007, 09:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 5,037 Country:	Re: Anyone ever heard these? I've just read that Heterodon simus is exclusively a toad eater. Never even heard that they would actually get sick from eating rodents. edit: Just checked the book, it says the same about Heterodon platyrhinos. __________________ No cutesy.

11-16-2007, 10:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
sschind Juvenile snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 170 Country:	Re: Anyone ever heard these? Thanks, I wasn't doubting you by the way, I just wanted more info.

11-17-2007, 10:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
RZL36 Subadult snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shores of Jersey Posts: 331 Country:	Re: Anyone ever heard these? I didn't think that you were. I've heard of people who have kept platirhinos on a diet of mice with little effect. Wasn't trying to be snide, just wanted to get the info to ya. __________________ Rich

11-17-2007, 01:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
Serpentine99 Subadult snake Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chester County, PA Posts: 303 Country:	Re: Anyone ever heard these? kingsnake.com Classifieds Sorry guys it looks like i posted the wrong link i actually wanted to know what these snakes were not the hognoses __________________ Quadruple Sport Enthusiast Wrestling Track Soccer Cross Country

11-17-2007, 01:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 7,967 Country:	Re: Anyone ever heard these? It's an African Sand Snake, genus Psammophylax, I believe. __________________ James.

11-17-2007, 02:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Serpentine99 Subadult snake Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chester County, PA Posts: 303 Country:	Re: Anyone ever heard these? oh ok have you ever heard them called that before? Skaapsters? __________________ Quadruple Sport Enthusiast Wrestling Track Soccer Cross Country

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