Nerodia Sipedon - Water Snake - Page 3

Loren · 08-12-2008, 09:23 PM

Very nice, I would love to have some nerodia someday, but they arent legal here. Considered potentialy destructive if released/escaped.

dekaybrown · 08-12-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren

Very nice, I would love to have some nerodia someday, but they arent legal here. Considered potentialy destructive if released/escaped.

Loren, Where is "here"???

GartersRock · 08-12-2008, 09:41 PM

Huh. Interesting. Destructive??

dashnu · 08-12-2008, 09:46 PM

I have heard of this type thing around here a lot. Something is causing a bell to go off in my head... Didn't something like this happen in Lake Erie, snakes where killing off all the fish..

Someone up here populated one of our small lakes with Northern Pike and it is wipping out the bass population.

Loren · 08-13-2008, 12:23 AM

Same idea as with the fish. Some water snakes got established in a few areas of California, one of which being in the range of the giant garter (t. gigas, if I remember right) and is/was competing with them for habitat and food. So, the Ca fish and game made it illegal to posess nerodia here.
I am not sure if those nerodia populations still exist or not at the present day.

dekaybrown · 08-13-2008, 05:34 AM

Thank you for the clarification.

Makes perfect sense

Zephyr · 08-13-2008, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dashnu

I have heard of this type thing around here a lot. Something is causing a bell to go off in my head... Didn't something like this happen in Lake Erie, snakes where killing off all the fish..

Huh, all I know is that the Lake Erie water snake is protected, but in the one cove they're found there's a whole bunch of them.

dashnu · 08-13-2008, 10:07 AM

right, you know what im thinking of are those damn clams!! It just poped into my head.

GartersRock · 08-13-2008, 10:40 AM

Ah ok. Makes sense! Actually reasonable!

crzy_kevo · 08-14-2008, 01:37 PM

man i was walking home and i stopped by the emty lot by the warter and looked over the edge at the rocks like i always do to see if there are any snakes and finally the first nerodia i had seen this year but it scotted deep in the rocks b4 i could get to it

im still pissed that it got away

but on the plus side i know they are still hanging out there since before today i hadn't seen one there since last year

08-12-2008, 09:23 PM	#21 (permalink)
Loren Old and wise snake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,044	Re: Nerodia Sipedon - Water Snake Very nice, I would love to have some nerodia someday, but they arent legal here. Considered potentialy destructive if released/escaped.

08-12-2008, 09:41 PM	#23 (permalink)
GartersRock I am not obsessed.... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 1,486	Re: Nerodia Sipedon - Water Snake Huh. Interesting. Destructive?? __________________ Amanda Tolleson 19.23 Assorted Garters, Ribbons, inc Flames, Pugets etc. 19.17 Assorted "Other Reps" ATBs, TX Rats, Leos Etc 11.13 Mammals

08-12-2008, 09:46 PM	#24 (permalink)
dashnu "Preparing For Third shed" Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Casco, Maine Posts: 403	Re: Nerodia Sipedon - Water Snake I have heard of this type thing around here a lot. Something is causing a bell to go off in my head... Didn't something like this happen in Lake Erie, snakes where killing off all the fish.. Someone up here populated one of our small lakes with Northern Pike and it is wipping out the bass population. __________________ http://www.herphut.org 0.3.0 Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis, 0.2.0 Thamnophis cyrtopsis ocellatus, 0.0.2 Python regius, 1.0.0 Anolis carolinensis, 0.0.1 Eublepharis macularius, and others...

08-13-2008, 12:23 AM	#25 (permalink)
Loren Old and wise snake Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: U.S. Posts: 1,044	Re: Nerodia Sipedon - Water Snake Same idea as with the fish. Some water snakes got established in a few areas of California, one of which being in the range of the giant garter (t. gigas, if I remember right) and is/was competing with them for habitat and food. So, the Ca fish and game made it illegal to posess nerodia here. I am not sure if those nerodia populations still exist or not at the present day.

08-13-2008, 05:34 AM	#26 (permalink)
dekaybrown Snake whisperer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central NYS. Home to the 2009 world meeting Posts: 2,765	Re: Nerodia Sipedon - Water Snake Thank you for the clarification. Makes perfect sense __________________ Thanks for reading, Wayne

08-13-2008, 10:07 AM	#28 (permalink)
dashnu "Preparing For Third shed" Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Casco, Maine Posts: 403	Re: Nerodia Sipedon - Water Snake right, you know what im thinking of are those damn clams!! It just poped into my head. __________________ http://www.herphut.org 0.3.0 Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis, 0.2.0 Thamnophis cyrtopsis ocellatus, 0.0.2 Python regius, 1.0.0 Anolis carolinensis, 0.0.1 Eublepharis macularius, and others...

08-13-2008, 10:40 AM	#29 (permalink)
GartersRock I am not obsessed.... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 1,486	Re: Nerodia Sipedon - Water Snake Ah ok. Makes sense! Actually reasonable! __________________ Amanda Tolleson 19.23 Assorted Garters, Ribbons, inc Flames, Pugets etc. 19.17 Assorted "Other Reps" ATBs, TX Rats, Leos Etc 11.13 Mammals

08-14-2008, 01:37 PM	#30 (permalink)
crzy_kevo The Golden Snake Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Ontario Posts: 1,177	Re: Nerodia Sipedon - Water Snake man i was walking home and i stopped by the emty lot by the warter and looked over the edge at the rocks like i always do to see if there are any snakes and finally the first nerodia i had seen this year but it scotted deep in the rocks b4 i could get to it im still pissed that it got away but on the plus side i know they are still hanging out there since before today i hadn't seen one there since last year __________________ ~~~Kevin~~~ 1.3 Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis (george, checkers, turk and squirt)

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