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Old 03-02-2007, 11:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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nice pictures
that looks like Natrix natrix scutata
Natrix natrix natrix doesn't have those markings at the head/neck.
Which markings?
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Old 03-03-2007, 03:22 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It seems strange that people in te USA are allowed to keep Natrix natrix, while we (in the Netherlands) are not allowed to do this because it is a native species.
The same thing as with T. sirtalis tetrataenia, but than the other way around.

Maybe I am just jealous

If you like Natrix natrix, take a look at these pictures I made in the Czech Republic.

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but we have the tetrataenia's
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:37 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Natrix natrix

The Natrix natrix natrix doesn't have those half-moon-shaped light-coloured markings at the back of the head beginning of the neck. It's just plain dark coloured on top and light coloured underneath.
It was Daniel who explained to me thet the N.n.scutata looks almost exactly the same, except for those markings.
When chasing down pictures on the internet, I found that often Natrix natrix subspecies are not identified, so it took a while. Apparently Natrix nartrix natrix is less common than the other sub-species, which may be why they require extra paperwork to obtain.
I am not certain which sub-species Dan is planning to bring in.
I sent off an email to him with enough questions to keep him busy all weekend.
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:17 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Natrix natrix

Natrix natrix plays dead indeed when disturbed. But they do not do this all the tome.

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Old 03-03-2007, 07:26 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Wow ... what a great pic !!

thanks for sharing
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
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The Natrix natrix natrix doesn't have those half-moon-shaped light-coloured markings at the back of the head beginning of the neck. It's just plain dark coloured on top and light coloured underneath.
It was Daniel who explained to me thet the N.n.scutata looks almost exactly the same, except for those markings.
When chasing down pictures on the internet, I found that often Natrix natrix subspecies are not identified, so it took a while. Apparently Natrix nartrix natrix is less common than the other sub-species, which may be why they require extra paperwork to obtain.
I am not certain which sub-species Dan is planning to bring in.
I sent off an email to him with enough questions to keep him busy all weekend.
Do you mean those white, yellow, orange or sometimes red blotches behind the head? It's sometimes missing, but I've never seen it in the wild. I mean, the ONLY Natrix natrix subspecies I've had the pleasure to see in the wild are precisely N. n. natrix.


Thamnophis, that's a great picture. Makes me wish it was summer already.
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Wow ... what a great pic !!

thanks for sharing
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That is not a picture I made. I loaned it form the internet.
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:40 AM   #18 (permalink)
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It's still a great picture.
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:46 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Natrix natrix

And... just to make you jealous

I work in a Reptile Zoo and we have a Natrix natrix there.
We are a shelter for mistreated and dumped and seized reptiels, amphibians and invertebrated animals.

A few yaers ago we got a Natrix natrix. Do not know where it came from, but it is a kind of spastic and its body is badly developed. Ther are a lot of strange twists in his body.
Eventhough it does well. It cannot be placed back in the wild because of its handicap and because we do not know from where it came.
So... I can keep a Natrix natrix legally

Three pictures of the beast...





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Old 03-03-2007, 11:50 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Natrix natrix

Hi there,
I almost never saw Natrix n. natrix in the wild (of Germany;-), though it is the most common species of snakes in our country, but I see them every day in our terrarium where we keep 2,2 (it's allowed to keep c.b. here). I heard, it's also not allowed to keep them in Belgium). N.n.natrix have these (moonlike) blotches in the neck. HAve a look on the photos on our website: www.schlangenland.de - Natrix natrix natrix
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