Albino Garter snake FOUND IN NW OREGON!

[ssssnakeluvr]

Fish and game does'nt give a rats *** about garter snakes.

unfortunately thats true pretty much anywhere...... my friend at the reptile rescue and I were here in Salt Lake City checking out a garter snake den.... they are protected by law here, reptile dens. pointed out the destruction of the den to a wildlife officer....just blew us off. no snakes were seen at the den last year and 1 lone male there this year...

[aSnakeLovinBabe]

hmmmm....then the bid is $100 now

I'll add a playstation 3 to that bid!

[infernalis]

Fish and game does'nt give a rats *** about garter snakes.

Same thing here, They claim Easterns are protected, yet my next door neighbor chases them around on her riding lawn mower and that is perfectly "acceptable".

[ConcinnusMan]

Fish and game does'nt give a rats *** about garter snakes.

Exactly. In fact, some years ago, they were in my house. They took two rubber boas but the concinnus stayed. They said that they appeared to be well cared for and they flat out told me they aren't concerned about garter snakes in the least bit so yeah, on paper it's illegal, in reality, not enforced. I even knew a kid who's dad worked for fish and game. He had pet garters.

hmmmm....then the bid is $100 now

I'm not so sure. I don't think odie understands how bidding works. Somehow he thought he was helping by bidding $100 and doesn't expect to actually pay that out. So far that would be the only offer. I'm trying to confirm whether or not his bid is serious. Seems like everyone and his mother who was even interested in the snake at all is backing out one by one. NOBODY besides odie has suggested any offer at all and I'm not even sure he is serious about it. I don't get it. You can't tell me not a soul is interested in starting a line of albino ordinoides and yet tons of people were going "ga-ga" over a simple red striped individual. Unbelievable.

[ConcinnusMan]

Quote "Fish and game does'nt give a rats *** about garter snakes."

Before someone else posts a law, call up you local fish and game office and tell them you seen a guy purposely kill a garter in his yard. if you plan to sit outside and wait for them to show up you may wanna pack a lunch lol

They wouldn't care here. You can anything you want to snake in your yard, especially a garter snake. They wouldn't even respond to a call like that.

[ConcinnusMan]

Sorry odie. I guess this guy thinks he's gonna get rich or something. He says $100 isn't enough and he'd rather keep it. Might as well kiss this albino goodbye. He knows nothing about caring for them or breeding for the albino gene. So frustrating when idiots are the people who find these.

[otis lee]

i gave $100 for this wc albino! but i wont get rid of any for that price...

[ConcinnusMan]

Yeah, blah blah. Means nothing if it doesn't at least produce one litter of hets. Preserve the new morphs/albinos, whatever. I still think that as unimpressive as this albino ordinoides may be, it could hold the key to future morphs.

Your snake is definitely awesome. All is lost if offspring are not produced and nobody follows up on producing more snakes with the gene.

It just seems like nobody but me gives a darn about this albino ordinoides. As if it's being looked at as "nonsignificant". I beg to differ. It's very significant. I want to see that gene passed on and experimented with by dedicated breeders but nobody seems to care. It's kind of sickening to me.

I'm going to ask this guy if he'll at least consider joining the forum and letting us guide him to the ultimate goal of producing 100% hets from this snake before it dies.

I said it before, it's not about money. I just have a feeling that this snake is important, or at least future breedings from it's descendants are important and could change the breed to be a little more interesting and appealing to the hobby. Ordinoides are far underappreciated for the most part and now an albino surfaces. We already know of melanistics. Lets work with the albino and melanistics, high reds, whatever presents itself and create something different!

Call it a hunch, but money paid or not, spectacular or not, this snake seems important to me. Not exactly important to me personally, but important for the future of this species in captive breeding efforts. More than anything I want to see this snake produce hets and those hets used for future breeding!

[Lance Portal Reptiles]

i dont know man, but when when people break laws to get a new morph into the hobby, makes us all look bad and know one whats to be part of it... Look at all the -press we have had this year. I think your wrong about them not caring...its not a $5 WC garter....its one that is worth alot in the long run and their looking for things like this...come on...it was on CL!!!! you dont think they saw this and are most likey reading this post.... Things like this get into the hobby from the "blackmarket" style sales...not the open market.

[ConcinnusMan]

uh huh. Sure.