feeding question

chris87 · 06-15-2007, 03:35 AM

hi i got told that i cannot feed my garter pinkies with black bellies, just wondering if this it true. i took a photo of one that looks to have a black belly to see if pinkies like this are ok to feed to my snake. thanx
here is the photo

drache · 06-15-2007, 04:49 AM

that pic looks familiar
wasn't that in some other thread?
the dark belly indicates blood pooling in the rodent's belly, because cf cellular breakdown
I don't know for sure that this only happens when the rodent is defrosted and re-frozen
in and of itself it's not harmful
even if a rodent was defrosted and re-frozen, it's still okay
in my experience, if a rodent has been defrosted for too long before it was re-frozen, or re-frozen multiple times, it also goes through other colour changes, but since I've not had it happen a lot, my experience is limited, and I could be wrong
in any case
I have fed rodents looking like the one in the pic with no ill effect

chris87 · 06-15-2007, 05:05 AM

ok thankx yh i put it on be4 but i put it on agen to see wot ppl will say about it coz it worries me to feed it this i just wont to no if it will be ok to give it to the my snake, if pinkies have black bellies like that one has, thankx

Morph · 06-15-2007, 05:06 AM

There was another thread posted just recently about the same thing and the general oppinion was that its fine to feed them with "black bellys"

chris87 · 06-15-2007, 05:14 AM

ok mate thankx

Stefan-A · 06-15-2007, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drache

the dark belly indicates blood pooling in the rodent's belly, because cf cellular breakdown

Something similar to postmortem lividity?
Livor mortis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Aaanyway, they are ok to use.

ssssnakeluvr · 06-15-2007, 10:31 AM

after feeding mine yesterday I noticed something...you can see the liver right thru the skin..I think that's what you are seeing....if the whole pink is discolored, junk it, but otherwise it is fine.

adamanteus · 06-15-2007, 11:56 AM

Stefan, you know some weird stuff!

KITKAT · 06-15-2007, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drache

the dark belly indicates blood pooling in the rodent's belly, because of cellular breakdown
I don't know for sure that this only happens when the rodent is defrosted and re-frozen

AAARRRGGGHHH!

That makes TOTAL sense! I never thought of it. A pinkie that was fresh frozen and then thawed would thaw first in the belly and the blood (serous fluid) from the thawing would collect in the belly.

Thanks! Wish I'd known that last time I discarded some thawed/refrozen pinks!

drache · 06-15-2007, 02:27 PM

I think that if you're going to try to re-offer a thawed rodent within the next 36 hours or so, it makes more sense to just fridge it, and to toss it if it's not taken then
also I think it's wise to toss them after a second thaw

06-15-2007, 03:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
chris87 "First shed, A Success" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: notts Posts: 124 Country:	feeding question hi i got told that i cannot feed my garter pinkies with black bellies, just wondering if this it true. i took a photo of one that looks to have a black belly to see if pinkies like this are ok to feed to my snake. thanx here is the photo

06-15-2007, 04:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 4,416 Country:	Re: feeding question that pic looks familiar wasn't that in some other thread? the dark belly indicates blood pooling in the rodent's belly, because cf cellular breakdown I don't know for sure that this only happens when the rodent is defrosted and re-frozen in and of itself it's not harmful even if a rodent was defrosted and re-frozen, it's still okay in my experience, if a rodent has been defrosted for too long before it was re-frozen, or re-frozen multiple times, it also goes through other colour changes, but since I've not had it happen a lot, my experience is limited, and I could be wrong in any case I have fed rodents looking like the one in the pic with no ill effect __________________ rhea "Life is just one damn thing after another." Mark Twain

06-15-2007, 05:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
chris87 "First shed, A Success" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: notts Posts: 124 Country:	Re: feeding question ok thankx yh i put it on be4 but i put it on agen to see wot ppl will say about it coz it worries me to feed it this i just wont to no if it will be ok to give it to the my snake, if pinkies have black bellies like that one has, thankx

06-15-2007, 05:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Morph Juvenile snake Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Aldershot, UK Posts: 133 Country:	Re: feeding question There was another thread posted just recently about the same thing and the general oppinion was that its fine to feed them with "black bellys" __________________ 0.0.1 Sesarma bidens ~ Clawz 1.1.0 Thamnophis marcianus ~ Mr & Mrs Dinky 0.1.0 Trachemys scripta eligans ~ Vikki 1.0.0 Trachemys scripta scripta ~ Mr.T 2.0.0 Rattus rattus ~ Rolo & Munchie

06-15-2007, 05:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
chris87 "First shed, A Success" Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: notts Posts: 124 Country:	Re: feeding question ok mate thankx

06-15-2007, 10:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,215 Country:	Re: feeding question after feeding mine yesterday I noticed something...you can see the liver right thru the skin..I think that's what you are seeing....if the whole pink is discolored, junk it, but otherwise it is fine.

06-15-2007, 11:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,465 Country:	Re: feeding question Stefan, you know some weird stuff! __________________ James.

06-15-2007, 02:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 4,416 Country:	Re: feeding question I think that if you're going to try to re-offer a thawed rodent within the next 36 hours or so, it makes more sense to just fridge it, and to toss it if it's not taken then also I think it's wise to toss them after a second thaw __________________ rhea "Life is just one damn thing after another." Mark Twain

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