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06-16-2007, 12:01 AM
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Re: The Confusion Continues (ID thread)
I would love if someone had pictures of a fitchi from northern oregon, that might shine some light on the subject
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06-17-2007, 12:24 AM
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Re: The Confusion Continues (ID thread)
Chad..the snake I posted is a valley garter....no red sided, t s parietalis, in Idaho or Utah!!! I stick by my id....I have caught numerous valley garters in Idaho...99% have the red cheek.....where do you live?:????
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06-17-2007, 02:07 AM
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Re: The Confusion Continues (ID thread)
Chad, if you take a look at the comparative distribution ranges of the two sub-species I think you will see that Don is right. His snake is indeed a T. s. fitchi.
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06-17-2007, 09:23 PM
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Re: The Confusion Continues (ID thread)
Yes...
Looks just like my male pickeringii... What is the scale count? Quote:
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06-17-2007, 10:46 PM
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Re: The Confusion Continues (ID thread)
I am reasonably sure that that is a california redsided garter ( Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis ). The Marin County variety is the kind that I have. My female is from Scott Felzer and the male was someone's pet until he got tired of it. This is the male.
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06-18-2007, 06:09 PM
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Re: The Confusion Continues (ID thread)
tori most of my field time is spent in marin county and i have never seen an infernalis that looks like that, and regardless there is no way that it is a red sided just by locality alone
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06-18-2007, 06:19 PM
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Re: The Confusion Continues (ID thread)
it Kat that picture is a pickeringii, it was a comparison picture
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