another ID ?

vegabond · 06-17-2007, 11:24 PM

These two are from today. I always thought of them as Western Terrestrial Garter Snake; Thamnophis elegans.The top one is the wierd looking one. lots of white spots, not so much stripe. the bottom one is what I am Used to finding. I realize that there is much variation in patterns and color, but this one was just different. These were around 7700 ft in colorado.

ssssnakeluvr · 06-18-2007, 08:26 AM

Those are wandering garters...very nice!!!! T e vagrans....Brian Eager has a collage of pics of wandering garters...I'll email him and see if he can post it on here...I have a copy of the pic also... they can have quite a variation in color and patterns!!

GarterGuy · 06-19-2007, 10:23 AM

Yep, just another colour variety of T.e.vagrans....like Don stated, they can by very variable. Very nice find!
Roy

vegabond · 06-19-2007, 05:30 PM

thanks guys, find them every day, and love em

Thamnophis · 06-19-2007, 08:38 PM

Very beautiful!

Snaky · 06-21-2007, 02:33 AM

Nice findings

Stefan-A · 06-21-2007, 02:49 AM

Nice indeed.

For some reason the second one reminds me of a Storeria dekayi.

drache · 06-21-2007, 04:35 AM

nice ones
I love those
great find

Lee · 06-25-2007, 04:07 PM

Where at in CO did you find them? Nice finds, took me a bit to find any I never see them every day, and they are all smaller. Guess you gotta go up into the mountains to see the bigger ones :*)

vegabond · 06-25-2007, 10:54 PM

I live in gunnison, colorado. It is at 7,700 ft. I work on a house up the road a little bit, probably at 8000 ft, (but still in a valley) and honestly see them every day I am up there. recently the guys road caved in where the irrigation ditch goes underneath, and the garters have been loving that area. found a shed down in that spot today along with a few garters. I still have yet to find any other species in gunnison, but in colorado in general we have 26 species of snakes, just mostly lower in elevation.

06-17-2007, 11:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
vegabond Hi, I'm New Here! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5	another ID ? These two are from today. I always thought of them as Western Terrestrial Garter Snake; Thamnophis elegans.The top one is the wierd looking one. lots of white spots, not so much stripe. the bottom one is what I am Used to finding. I realize that there is much variation in patterns and color, but this one was just different. These were around 7700 ft in colorado.

06-18-2007, 08:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr Mr Thamnophis Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,426	Re: another ID ? Those are wandering garters...very nice!!!! T e vagrans....Brian Eager has a collage of pics of wandering garters...I'll email him and see if he can post it on here...I have a copy of the pic also... they can have quite a variation in color and patterns!!

06-19-2007, 10:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,356	Re: another ID ? Yep, just another colour variety of T.e.vagrans....like Don stated, they can by very variable. Very nice find! Roy __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

06-19-2007, 05:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
vegabond Hi, I'm New Here! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5	Re: another ID ? thanks guys, find them every day, and love em

06-19-2007, 08:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Thamnophis Dutch, bold and Thamnophis-crazy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,342	Re: another ID ? Very beautiful! __________________ Kousebandslangen.nl - Member of the EGSA It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner. Frank Zappa

06-21-2007, 02:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
Snaky Truieneer, e ras apoat Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,814	Re: another ID ? Nice findings

06-21-2007, 02:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
Stefan-A Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 6,440	Re: another ID ? Nice indeed. For some reason the second one reminds me of a Storeria dekayi.

06-21-2007, 04:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 4,864	Re: another ID ? nice ones I love those great find __________________ rhea "Life is just one damn thing after another." Mark Twain

06-25-2007, 04:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lee "Preparing For Second shed" Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 220	Re: another ID ? Where at in CO did you find them? Nice finds, took me a bit to find any I never see them every day, and they are all smaller. Guess you gotta go up into the mountains to see the bigger ones :*)

06-25-2007, 10:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
vegabond Hi, I'm New Here! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5	Re: another ID ? I live in gunnison, colorado. It is at 7,700 ft. I work on a house up the road a little bit, probably at 8000 ft, (but still in a valley) and honestly see them every day I am up there. recently the guys road caved in where the irrigation ditch goes underneath, and the garters have been loving that area. found a shed down in that spot today along with a few garters. I still have yet to find any other species in gunnison, but in colorado in general we have 26 species of snakes, just mostly lower in elevation.

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