ID/Colors morph=?

Lee · 07-22-2007, 09:47 PM

I stole the picture of this snake from another site, this I'm told is eastern garter but I'm not so sure myself, any idea what color morph this is?
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garterking7 · 07-22-2007, 10:17 PM

thats not an eastern garter snake because it is to pale. They are darker than that but I dont know what kind of garter snake that is.

Josh · 07-22-2007, 10:57 PM

i dont know much but maybe a maritime???????? i really dont no thats a guess.

Sid · 07-23-2007, 04:31 AM

I'm no expert, but it looks like T. rufipunctatus (Narrow-headed Garter)

Sid

GarterGirl · 07-23-2007, 04:34 AM

I don't really know.
It does look a little like a
maritime garter.

Stefan-A · 07-23-2007, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid

I'm no expert, but it looks like T. rufipunctatus (Narrow-headed Garter)

Sid

I'm not an expert either, but I'd definitely say that's not a rufipunctatus.

The narrow-headed looks a lot more like a typical Nerodia than a typical Thamnophis.

Wouldn't rule out the eastern or the maritime garter.

drache · 07-23-2007, 08:05 AM

it looks like an albino something or other
the eyes have that reddish tint
and it seems to me that there's some, more sandy coloured kinds of albinos
I'm a total novice at the ID thing though

Lee · 07-23-2007, 08:09 AM

Here is a bit more backround on this snake..It was found on the eastern limits of the T.s.sirtalis range along with a bunch of other easterns. Several pictures of several different T.s.sirtalis to show the color variety in them. These included normal, high red, blueish and what appears to be a martime X eastern cross...
Maybe it is a hypo melanistic eastern?

adamanteus · 07-23-2007, 12:14 PM

There is a photo of an aberrent T. s. sirtalis very like this in Garter & Ribbon Snakes by Mara.

Stefan-A · 07-23-2007, 12:24 PM

There's also a very similar T. s. sirtalis in Garter and Ribbon Snakes by Bartlett & Bartlett.

We're not talking about the same book, are we James?

07-22-2007, 09:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lee "Preparing For Second shed" Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 220 Country:	ID/Colors morph=? I stole the picture of this snake from another site, this I'm told is eastern garter but I'm not so sure myself, any idea what color morph this is? l

07-22-2007, 10:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
garterking7 Hi, I'm New Here! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16 Country:	Re: ID/Colors morph=? thats not an eastern garter snake because it is to pale. They are darker than that but I dont know what kind of garter snake that is. __________________ Cody Veverka

07-22-2007, 10:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Josh Thamnophis Collectus Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: wilkes barre Posts: 1,138 Country:	Re: ID/Colors morph=? i dont know much but maybe a maritime???????? i really dont no thats a guess. __________________ Josh *0.1 T. radix*

07-23-2007, 04:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Sid Thamnophis Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,726 Country:	Re: ID/Colors morph=? I'm no expert, but it looks like T. rufipunctatus (Narrow-headed Garter) Sid

07-23-2007, 04:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
GarterGirl "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 534 Country:	Re: ID/Colors morph=? I don't really know. It does look a little like a maritime garter. __________________ MIKHAILA

07-23-2007, 08:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 4,257 Country:	Re: ID/Colors morph=? it looks like an albino something or other the eyes have that reddish tint and it seems to me that there's some, more sandy coloured kinds of albinos I'm a total novice at the ID thing though __________________ rhea

07-23-2007, 08:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lee "Preparing For Second shed" Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 220 Country:	Re: ID/Colors morph=? Here is a bit more backround on this snake..It was found on the eastern limits of the T.s.sirtalis range along with a bunch of other easterns. Several pictures of several different T.s.sirtalis to show the color variety in them. These included normal, high red, blueish and what appears to be a martime X eastern cross... Maybe it is a hypo melanistic eastern?

07-23-2007, 12:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,354 Country:	Re: ID/Colors morph=? There is a photo of an aberrent T. s. sirtalis very like this in Garter & Ribbon Snakes by Mara. __________________ James.

07-23-2007, 12:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 5,454 Country:	Re: ID/Colors morph=? There's also a very similar T. s. sirtalis in Garter and Ribbon Snakes by Bartlett & Bartlett. We're not talking about the same book, are we James? __________________ Ophidia in herba.

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