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Old 10-29-2006, 06:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Some new garters

Hi there

I finally got my new garter snakes. The pics aren't the best, but I think, you see what it is ;-)

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Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis:


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Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis flame:


Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis melanistisch:
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Old 10-29-2006, 06:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Some new garters

Thamnophis sirtalis tetrataenia:


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Old 10-29-2006, 06:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The actually living inside of this cages:


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Old 10-29-2006, 07:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Some new garters

Holy macaroni, Boeh... those look very fine! The snakes as well as the terrariums.
Love that flame and the infernalis.
The pics aren't that bad as you think. I think they are very fine!
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Old 10-29-2006, 08:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Some new garters

very, very, very nice!!! both enclosures and garters!
Nice pics by the way, i can imagine its difficult to snap a good shot of the Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis melanistisch...maybe a different background?
nontheless...wonderfull additions to your collection!
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Old 10-29-2006, 12:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Very nice garters and cages. Very.
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Old 10-29-2006, 01:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Some new garters

What a shipment! I particularly like your infernalis! I've been looking all over for a nice pair to buy. If they turn blue on the underside, you'll have it all. Also, both tetrataenia are awesome! Thanks for sharing.
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Old 10-30-2006, 02:26 AM   #8 (permalink)
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thanx at all! i really like those little worms. btw, i tend to call my flame "spark", because it didn't reach for a true flame ;-) he only has red lateral stripes, but he's anyway nice.

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it's really difficult to catch the melanistic. you're right, i should change the background. maybe something more dark.

sadly, this is my new collection. i had some hard problems with the snakes i already had. they all had cryptosporidium serpentis (i think in english they are called cryptos). some days ago i decided for an euthanasia.

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Hey Cyrill, I know not that much about that disease. I know it is is an internal parasite, but what did you notice on your snakes when they got sick?
Please tell us some more if you can?

Are you not frightend the new snakes get it to?

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Hi Fons

Primarily i didn't notice anything. I do some faeces tests at least once a year (or by initial purchase) and there i became the result: "Cryptosporidium - positiv". Cryptosporidium is a very hard protozoa which is resistent against almost all disinfectant. Just chlorine and other very strong disinfectant can "kill" it. That's one big problem by this disease. Another one is, there's not really a medicine which heal the snakes. We (the mammals generally) are almost resistent against Cryptosporidium (parvum in this case). Only people with a bad immune system can be attacked by these protozoa.

I'm not really frightened about that case. Because the sick ones were placed in another building. I just went to the sick ones if i didn't had to do anything by the new ones. Every fixtures which had contact to the sick snakes were thrown away. I had strict hygiene principles (one way gloves, etc).

The symptoms are:
1. diarrhea
2. puke out the feed
3. "body blow up"


The cryptos attacks the bowel till it can't gathering anything. That's the reason why they puke the feed out. it's propably one of the worst diseases that our snakes can have!

I tried 2 different medicines.

1. Baycox (usually used for porks and company)
2. Agent: zithromax (antibiotics) together with zylexis (immune strongerer)

Both doesn't really make it better. Another problem is, stress make all worser. It isn't possible to inject the medicine without stress. By a Python, it's much more easier, but by our lovely Thamnophis, it's always aligned with a lot of stress. Either with the disinfecting of the cages. Another "stress-point".

In the last 2 weeks they got worser and worser. So i decided for the euthanasia.

There's only the sirtalis x flame which make a good impression. Maybe he's getting fit (i don't really believe...), otherwise i'll keep her till the day she looking sick.

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