is this a red sided?

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

Originally Posted by GarterGuy

Don't know if I'd put down 100% on it being a fitchi, think I'd need some locational data on the snake first. It surely looks like it could be a parietalis yet to me. I know I've seen both subspecies that looked similar.

Roy

i got it at my local pet store because i notcied the orange they were just labeled garter snakes it is orange striped not red

[flakgunner]

hey,
I'am leaning more towards a Valley,the red sided garters ,that i'am familiar with,have side strips that sit higher up.

Thamnophis sirtalis fitchi - Valley Gartersnake

http://www.anapsid.org/images/garterredside.jpg

Joe

[ssssnakeluvr]

garterguy mentioned it could also possibly be a parietalis...Lots of the parietalis from Canada look like that also....have dark bellies and a row of red spots on the side....

[drache]

it does look a lot like one of my parietalis

[GarterGuy]

Originally Posted by ssssnakeluvr

garterguy mentioned it could also possibly be a parietalis...Lots of the parietalis from Canada look like that also....have dark bellies and a row of red spots on the side....

Also a lot of the garters that you see in pet stores are Canadian parietalis, because of the large number of dens sites up there. I know my first garter was a Manitoba parietalis (that was WAY back when they still allowed collecting at a lot of the bigger den sites). I still see them coming out of that region. Also when you look at the head of the snake in the pics, it reminds me a lot more of a parietalis then fitchi.

[enigma200316]

I agree with Roy, need a little nore info.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

Originally Posted by enigma200316

I agree with Roy, need a little nore info.

hmmm well it does seems orang bars not red but unlike the red sided pictures ive seen the orange/red fades before the tail

[adamanteus]

I would have to vote for parietalis.

[EdgyExoticReptiles]

Originally Posted by adamanteus

I would have to vote for parietalis.

i asked scott felzer he said fitchi, are ther different types of parietalis? cuz hes like orange not red

[adamanteus]

Not different types as such, but they really are highly variable.