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09-18-2007, 11:59 AM
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nomenclature?
OK, we ordered a Puget and a red-sided from Scott.
 These are both common garter snakes as far as I can tell. So , trying to remember biology, they are the same species, different.....uh, thats where I forget.. |
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09-18-2007, 12:03 PM
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Re: nomenclature?
They are the same species.....Thamnophis sirtalis.
But different sub-species...T. s. pickeringii (Puget Sound) and T. s. parietalis (Red Sided).
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09-18-2007, 12:17 PM
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Re: nomenclature?
oh, yeah, thats right. They wouldn't be species. I was trying to come up with another example to help my daughter explain it when she gets asked. What does "Thamnophis sirtalis" mean, or come from?
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09-18-2007, 12:20 PM
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Re: nomenclature?
I think Stefan is pretty hot on the origins and meanings of scientific names...he's the man to ask! Or you could always Google it.
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09-18-2007, 12:33 PM
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Re: nomenclature?
Thamnophis - Greek - thamnos - shrub or bush, and ophis - snake, serpent
sirtalis - sirtalis like a garter - probably refers to the to striped pattern Source: Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis - California Red-sided Gartersnake |
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09-18-2007, 12:42 PM
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Re: nomenclature?
If anyone is into origins of scientific names, check this out:
Scientific and Common Names of the Reptiles and Amphibians of North America - Explained |
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I'm not sure if the nomenclature of artificially produced breeds is the same.
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