what other snakes

EdgyExoticReptiles · 09-24-2007, 06:46 PM

besides garters are active and eat fish/stips of trout?

RZL36 · 09-24-2007, 06:55 PM

Nerodia (watersnakes) eat a lot of fish, but in my experience they are not all that active. They also get pretty big, crap everywhere and bite a lot. I think some of the folks on this forum keep them and can probably give you a totally different first-hand account of nerodia keeping. This is just my opinion.

I've also heard of Aheetulla (Asian vine snakes) eating fish. They are not at all active and are nearly impossible to keep alive if they are not the center of your attention.

If you leave agkistrodon out of the equation (as you should). I think that sums it up.

Anyone else want to throw their hat in?

EdgyExoticReptiles · 09-24-2007, 07:41 PM

any1 else know of any?

Snaky · 09-25-2007, 01:06 AM

Natrix species and xenochrophis. I don't have first hand experience with any of them

Natrix are pretty much kept the same way as thamnophis, but I think that you can't get to them that easily.

Xenochrophis are most of the time wildcaught animals.

drache · 09-25-2007, 05:15 AM

my xenochrophis prefer pinkie at this point
I'm fortunate in that my plated lizards will eat anything my snakes leave - including fish

RZL36 · 09-25-2007, 07:07 AM

Oh good call Snaky, I am so Americentric (not a word). I totally forgot about the European ones.

Anthon · 09-25-2007, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RZL36

Nerodia (watersnakes) eat a lot of fish, but in my experience they are not all that active. They also get pretty big, crap everywhere and bite a lot. I think some of the folks on this forum keep them and can probably give you a totally different first-hand account of nerodia keeping. This is just my opinion.

Well..

Of course, all the snakes are different individuals, but my (not-so-big) experiences of this species (N. fasciata) is not that bad. My snake is active in daytimes and even when she's sleeping she's laying in the middle of the terrarium, not hidden at all.

But yeah, they seem to be a bit more aggressive than most of the garters. My water snake bites only when I'm taking it off from the terrarium when there is somewhere smelling a fish. But when handling, she's very calm and not aggressive at all.

RZL36 · 09-25-2007, 10:29 AM

Sounds about right. Everyone will have different experiences (sometimes with the same snake). Watersnakes are fan interesting keep, that's for sure.

Had a WC Northern when I was a kid. Meanest thing ever, but that's how wild caught usually are. I was about 12 when i found it and it never settled down. I lost interest in having it bite me, so i set it free where I found it.

Anthon · 09-25-2007, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RZL36

Meanest thing ever, but that's how wild caught usually are.

Yes, I think there's often a big difference between wild-caught and captive-bred (water) snakes. My one is born in captivity.

Thamnophis · 09-25-2007, 11:13 AM

Rhabdophis species (formerly named Natrix). This are Asian snakes.
Ik kept in the eighties Rhabdophis tigrinus and that is one pretty snake.
But watch out! They are more "venenous" than Thamnophis, Natrix and Nerodia!
Rhabdophis subminiatus even killed someone.
I haven't seen them for a long time in the trade.
I think that when I would find a few in a shop or on an expo I will not be abled to resist them.

This is a Rhabdophis tigrinus...

09-24-2007, 06:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
EdgyExoticReptiles Edgy Exotic Reptiles Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,332 Country:	what other snakes besides garters are active and eat fish/stips of trout? __________________ Email:reed@edgyexoticreptiles.com AIM: reed_kamsla http://www.edgyexoticreptiles.com

09-24-2007, 06:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
RZL36 Subadult snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shores of Jersey Posts: 331 Country:	Re: what other snakes Nerodia (watersnakes) eat a lot of fish, but in my experience they are not all that active. They also get pretty big, crap everywhere and bite a lot. I think some of the folks on this forum keep them and can probably give you a totally different first-hand account of nerodia keeping. This is just my opinion. I've also heard of Aheetulla (Asian vine snakes) eating fish. They are not at all active and are nearly impossible to keep alive if they are not the center of your attention. If you leave agkistrodon out of the equation (as you should). I think that sums it up. Anyone else want to throw their hat in?

09-24-2007, 07:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
EdgyExoticReptiles Edgy Exotic Reptiles Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,332 Country:	Re: what other snakes any1 else know of any? __________________ Email:reed@edgyexoticreptiles.com AIM: reed_kamsla http://www.edgyexoticreptiles.com

09-25-2007, 01:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Snaky Truieneer, e ras apoat Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,782 Country:	Re: what other snakes Natrix species and xenochrophis. I don't have first hand experience with any of them Natrix are pretty much kept the same way as thamnophis, but I think that you can't get to them that easily. Xenochrophis are most of the time wildcaught animals.

09-25-2007, 05:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 4,423 Country:	Re: what other snakes my xenochrophis prefer pinkie at this point I'm fortunate in that my plated lizards will eat anything my snakes leave - including fish __________________ rhea "Life is just one damn thing after another." Mark Twain

09-25-2007, 07:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
RZL36 Subadult snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shores of Jersey Posts: 331 Country:	Re: what other snakes Oh good call Snaky, I am so Americentric (not a word). I totally forgot about the European ones.

09-25-2007, 10:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
RZL36 Subadult snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shores of Jersey Posts: 331 Country:	Re: what other snakes Sounds about right. Everyone will have different experiences (sometimes with the same snake). Watersnakes are fan interesting keep, that's for sure. Had a WC Northern when I was a kid. Meanest thing ever, but that's how wild caught usually are. I was about 12 when i found it and it never settled down. I lost interest in having it bite me, so i set it free where I found it.

09-25-2007, 11:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Thamnophis Dutch, bold and Thamnophis-crazy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,334 Country:	Re: what other snakes Rhabdophis species (formerly named Natrix). This are Asian snakes. Ik kept in the eighties Rhabdophis tigrinus and that is one pretty snake. But watch out! They are more "venenous" than Thamnophis, Natrix and Nerodia! Rhabdophis subminiatus even killed someone. I haven't seen them for a long time in the trade. I think that when I would find a few in a shop or on an expo I will not be abled to resist them. This is a Rhabdophis tigrinus... __________________ Kousebandslangen.nl - Member of the EGSA It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner. Frank Zappa Last edited by Thamnophis : 09-25-2007 at 07:59 PM. Reason: changed the link to the pics

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