baby lust - Page 2

adamanteus · 11-15-2007, 12:24 PM

I would have said parietalis..... but then I've never had a vagrans, so maybe you should disregard my opinion!

drache · 11-15-2007, 03:45 PM

I emailed Scott, to ask him about the red.
When I got Sammy, I got her along with two parietalis, and even the duller looking one has far more red than Sammy. In addition, all my parietalis have very distinct yellow dorsal stripes. Sammy's dorsal stripe is neither distinct nor yellow.
my vet was mumbling something about different population strains - wish I'd paid more attention then.

ssssnakeluvr · 11-15-2007, 04:25 PM

where was the snake found at.....it shows you in new york...if it was found in that area, most definitely sirtalis

drache · 11-15-2007, 04:33 PM

she wasn't found
she was captive bred
so that part doesn't really apply
I'm starting to become a little stressed over this over this
it's like an identity crisis

EdgyExoticReptiles · 11-15-2007, 04:38 PM

i swear it looks exactly like my red-sided just faded a little bit

ssssnakeluvr · 11-15-2007, 04:50 PM

well...no need to get stressed...

i would say its an eastern....doesn't look like a parietalis to me. lots of easterns have small to large amounts of red or orange. I have many photos stored here of various garters...lots of pics of easterns with red and orange.

RZL36 · 11-15-2007, 05:22 PM

I think it is parietalis.
Check out this photo.

http://www.minaxtarantulas.net/galle...narcisse_5.jpg

The easterns I've seen carry the red stronger on the bottom scales and they usually got some checkered patterning (sans melanistic).

Plus my easterns from the same clutch are pretty different looking. One is Mr. Blue and one is Mr. Brown.

Loren · 11-15-2007, 06:30 PM

Just a thought. Even if it is captive bred, perhaps it is a cross of 2 species? Sometimes people keep numorous species together.

anji1971 · 11-15-2007, 06:37 PM

Whatever type of garter Sammy may be, she is definitely a beauty! Hope you have lots of her babies one day Rhea!

drache · 11-15-2007, 07:51 PM

that does sound a lot like most of you don't think she could be a T.e.vagrans
hm
I'm not entirely sure why, but it is a little upsetting I guess
I keep pulling out books
Scott emailed me back
from the pic, he's agreeing with everybody here, but he's gonna pull his records and see where she came from
so - more later

11-15-2007, 12:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
adamanteus Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cheshire. (Near Manchester). Posts: 8,465 Country:	Re: baby lust I would have said parietalis..... but then I've never had a vagrans, so maybe you should disregard my opinion! __________________ James.

11-15-2007, 03:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 4,448 Country:	Re: baby lust I emailed Scott, to ask him about the red. When I got Sammy, I got her along with two parietalis, and even the duller looking one has far more red than Sammy. In addition, all my parietalis have very distinct yellow dorsal stripes. Sammy's dorsal stripe is neither distinct nor yellow. my vet was mumbling something about different population strains - wish I'd paid more attention then. __________________ rhea "Life is just one damn thing after another." Mark Twain

11-15-2007, 04:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,215 Country:	Re: baby lust where was the snake found at.....it shows you in new york...if it was found in that area, most definitely sirtalis __________________ Don www.donsgartersnakes.net

11-15-2007, 04:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 4,448 Country:	Re: baby lust she wasn't found she was captive bred so that part doesn't really apply I'm starting to become a little stressed over this over this it's like an identity crisis __________________ rhea "Life is just one damn thing after another." Mark Twain

11-15-2007, 04:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
EdgyExoticReptiles Edgy Exotic Reptiles Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,334 Country:	Re: baby lust i swear it looks exactly like my red-sided just faded a little bit __________________ Email:reed@edgyexoticreptiles.com AIM: reed_kamsla http://www.edgyexoticreptiles.com

11-15-2007, 04:50 PM	#16 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,215 Country:	Re: baby lust well...no need to get stressed... i would say its an eastern....doesn't look like a parietalis to me. lots of easterns have small to large amounts of red or orange. I have many photos stored here of various garters...lots of pics of easterns with red and orange. __________________ Don www.donsgartersnakes.net

11-15-2007, 05:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
RZL36 Subadult snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Shores of Jersey Posts: 331 Country:	Re: baby lust I think it is parietalis. Check out this photo. http://www.minaxtarantulas.net/galle...narcisse_5.jpg The easterns I've seen carry the red stronger on the bottom scales and they usually got some checkered patterning (sans melanistic). Plus my easterns from the same clutch are pretty different looking. One is Mr. Blue and one is Mr. Brown. __________________ Rich

11-15-2007, 06:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
Loren Old and wise snake Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 858 Country:	Re: baby lust Just a thought. Even if it is captive bred, perhaps it is a cross of 2 species? Sometimes people keep numorous species together.

11-15-2007, 06:37 PM	#19 (permalink)
anji1971 The Leader of the Eastern Gang Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Windsor, Ontario Posts: 2,691 Country:	Re: baby lust Whatever type of garter Sammy may be, she is definitely a beauty! Hope you have lots of her babies one day Rhea! __________________ Anji

11-15-2007, 07:51 PM	#20 (permalink)
drache Ophiuchus rhea Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 4,448 Country:	Re: baby lust that does sound a lot like most of you don't think she could be a T.e.vagrans hm I'm not entirely sure why, but it is a little upsetting I guess I keep pulling out books Scott emailed me back from the pic, he's agreeing with everybody here, but he's gonna pull his records and see where she came from so - more later __________________ rhea "Life is just one damn thing after another." Mark Twain

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