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12-03-2007, 09:51 PM
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Hi I am a Biology student at Carroll College in Helena, MT and am working on a thesis project involving melanistic garter snakes. There is a local population here and I am trying to determine the species. I would like to know where everyone else has found melanistic individuals and their species. I sure appreciate the help. Here is a snake we found that is pretty cool.
Thanks, J.T. http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...v/IMG_0867.jpg http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...v/IMG_0862.jpg |
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12-04-2007, 02:37 AM
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Hi James, and welcome to the forum.
 The only naturally occurring melanistic Garter Snake I've heard of is Thamnophis sirtalis sirtlalis. Good luck with your thesis.
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12-04-2007, 02:43 AM
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Have a look at this article:
http://www.thamnophis.com/caresheets...title=Genetics I don't know about more melanistic garters than in the article. Welcome to the forum and enjoy it here
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12-04-2007, 05:01 AM
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Hi James, welcome to the forum and i hope you find what you are looking for
Lulu xxx
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Lulu  1.1.3 T. M. Marcianus (Albino), Sissle, Kia and the sprogs 1.1.0 T. S. Tetrataenia, Clyde & Bonnie |
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12-04-2007, 06:28 AM
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by looking at the markings at the back of the snake I'd say it probably is
a T. s. sirtalis (Eastern) any one else care to venture a thought.......
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12-04-2007, 07:19 AM
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It's probably a wandering garter, thamnophis elegans vagrans. Scott Felzer acquired one a few years ago, totally black, no white on the chin like melanistic sirtalis sirtalis.
Adamanteus: Scott Felzer got a melanistic wandering, all black from Montana a few years ago, we have hypermelanistic wanderings in Utah. I have also read about melanistic maritime garters on St George Island..... |
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