Worried about Miriam :-(

Lori P · 01-09-2008, 04:25 PM

Guys... I'm worried about little Miriam. She is just so... sluggish lately. She ate two small guppies over the weekend, but only because I dangled them in front of her. She doesn't hunt anymore... she was the one who used to only eat live fish out of the water, and would hunt them like crazy. She doesn't bother now. She was in this spot when I left this morning, and she's still there tonite. She's so tiny... does she look thin to you guys? Can you tell from this pic? She just seems... lethargic. She does nto eat regularly, but I think the longest she's ever gone is 3 weeks and that's been a few months.

Could she just be slow for the winter?? She wasn't interested in eating this morning, but hopefully by the weekend I can get a couple minnows into her.

She just worries me... she used to be rpetty skittish and lately she doesn't even run when I reach in the tank. I don't handle her, I just mean when I reach in to feed or change water.

Sputnik · 01-09-2008, 04:43 PM

Lori, does she react at all when you put your hand near her? When you say she's been in this position all day.. has she even moved her head?

Lori P · 01-09-2008, 04:45 PM

Um. I don't know. I haven't tried. OMG, is she dead??? I don't want to look!!!! :-( :-( Ok... let me go see...

Lori P · 01-09-2008, 04:47 PM

Ok, she moved. But I actually had to touch her before she moved, and then she didn't dart away, she just moved away.

Sputnik · 01-09-2008, 05:05 PM

She doesn't look too happy, no. But I'm glad she moved.

Do you think she's warm enough?

Stefan-A · 01-09-2008, 05:08 PM

Try picking her up. Does she seem limp or weak, or does she still have strength in her muscles?

That's how I eventually realized something was very wrong with my parietalis male.

Lori P · 01-09-2008, 05:10 PM

The temp in there now, where she is, is 74 F. That's the normal night time temp, and during the day there's a basking spot of 80. What do you think??

Sid · 01-09-2008, 05:47 PM

Lori, wish I had some good advice for you. Her body weight looks pretty good in the photo. Do think I would raise the temp a few degrees and see if it helps.

Lori P · 01-09-2008, 05:52 PM

Stefan, she is limp and weak. She didn't resist when I picked her up and while she did raise her body up in my hand, it was slow. She just felt weak.

I am raising the temp now... it's up to 78...

Elliot · 01-09-2008, 06:52 PM

I don't know what to add to what has already been said, but good luck.

01-09-2008, 04:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lori P The Purple Snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: VA Posts: 2,419 Country:	Worried about Miriam :-( Guys... I'm worried about little Miriam. She is just so... sluggish lately. She ate two small guppies over the weekend, but only because I dangled them in front of her. She doesn't hunt anymore... she was the one who used to only eat live fish out of the water, and would hunt them like crazy. She doesn't bother now. She was in this spot when I left this morning, and she's still there tonite. She's so tiny... does she look thin to you guys? Can you tell from this pic? She just seems... lethargic. She does nto eat regularly, but I think the longest she's ever gone is 3 weeks and that's been a few months. Could she just be slow for the winter?? She wasn't interested in eating this morning, but hopefully by the weekend I can get a couple minnows into her. She just worries me... she used to be rpetty skittish and lately she doesn't even run when I reach in the tank. I don't handle her, I just mean when I reach in to feed or change water. __________________ Lori, New Hope Rescue-- rescuing equines and others www.newhoperescueva.com

01-09-2008, 04:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sputnik "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Wiltshire Posts: 553 Country:	Re: Worried about Miriam :-( Lori, does she react at all when you put your hand near her? When you say she's been in this position all day.. has she even moved her head? __________________

01-09-2008, 04:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Lori P The Purple Snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: VA Posts: 2,419 Country:	Re: Worried about Miriam :-( Um. I don't know. I haven't tried. OMG, is she dead??? I don't want to look!!!! :-( :-( Ok... let me go see... __________________ Lori, New Hope Rescue-- rescuing equines and others www.newhoperescueva.com

01-09-2008, 04:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Lori P The Purple Snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: VA Posts: 2,419 Country:	Re: Worried about Miriam :-( Ok, she moved. But I actually had to touch her before she moved, and then she didn't dart away, she just moved away. __________________ Lori, New Hope Rescue-- rescuing equines and others www.newhoperescueva.com

01-09-2008, 05:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sputnik "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Wiltshire Posts: 553 Country:	Re: Worried about Miriam :-( She doesn't look too happy, no. But I'm glad she moved. Do you think she's warm enough? __________________

01-09-2008, 05:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 4,957 Country:	Re: Worried about Miriam :-( Try picking her up. Does she seem limp or weak, or does she still have strength in her muscles? That's how I eventually realized something was very wrong with my parietalis male. __________________ No cutesy.

01-09-2008, 05:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lori P The Purple Snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: VA Posts: 2,419 Country:	Re: Worried about Miriam :-( The temp in there now, where she is, is 74 F. That's the normal night time temp, and during the day there's a basking spot of 80. What do you think?? __________________ Lori, New Hope Rescue-- rescuing equines and others www.newhoperescueva.com

01-09-2008, 05:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sid Thamnophis Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,625 Country:	Re: Worried about Miriam :-( Lori, wish I had some good advice for you. Her body weight looks pretty good in the photo. Do think I would raise the temp a few degrees and see if it helps. __________________ Sid 6.7 T. s sirtalis- Eastern Garter 0.1.5 T. s pinkeringii- Puget 1.1 T. e vagrans- Wandering Garter 1.0 T. s sackenii- Peninsular Ribbon

01-09-2008, 05:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lori P The Purple Snake Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: VA Posts: 2,419 Country:	Re: Worried about Miriam :-( Stefan, she is limp and weak. She didn't resist when I picked her up and while she did raise her body up in my hand, it was slow. She just felt weak. I am raising the temp now... it's up to 78... __________________ Lori, New Hope Rescue-- rescuing equines and others www.newhoperescueva.com

01-09-2008, 06:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
Elliot "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Missouri City, TX Posts: 1,122 Country:	Re: Worried about Miriam :-( I don't know what to add to what has already been said, but good luck. __________________ 1.1.1! T.p.orarius Gulf Coast Ribbon 1.0 T.e.vagrans Wandering Garter 0.0.1 T.s.pallidulus Maritime Garter Shine on you crazy diamond

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