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Old 01-15-2008, 08:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok so I think we all need to put our heads together and come up with a list of the fish that are ok to be fed. I'll take care of putting the list together you guys just get me the names of the fish.


At some point I'll wonder around to the local pet shops, write down names, and than ask which ones can be fed and which ones can't. This list will not only help me but all new people to the care of garters.

So go ahead and post the fish that are OK for garters to eat.
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Fish

Actually, I think we already have a list like that somewhere around here. I may be wrong though.
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Fish

New or old list, I think it'd be great to have pics of each kind. Worms, too.
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Fish

I can do pictures to if a list is made.
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Old 01-15-2008, 09:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Fish

My garters are fed as follows:

Any who willingly take or can be tricked to take rodents are fed a steady diet of them. They are supplemented twice a month with worms and fish. I also use reptivite occasionally.

As far as worms go, you want to use standard earthworms or nightcrawlers that you would buy as fishing bait. I buy canadian nightcrawlers. The walmart in my area supplies them year round.

If they are red in color or have visible color rings such as those little red worms that are used to bait trout, do not use them. These worms are dubbed by many to be poisonous to garters and do more harm than good. The fact that they secrete a nasty smelling orange slime should be enough to deter you. They are tempting to owners of baby garters. Instead, dig up some small earthworms from your garden (assuming you don't use pesticides) or chop up nightcrawlers. To make them easier to chop up, run them under semi hot water, it kills the worm, Yes I know its mean but it's practical as it prevents you from having to chop him to bits while he's alive.

Fish, are tricky. You have to be careful because of the damaging efects of thiaminase. Still, there is no clear complete list on which fish contain thiaminase and which do not. What I can tell you is do not use feeder goldfish. They contain thiaminase. I prefer feeder guppies and rosy reds. My babies all grow up on this diet until they are big enough to eat pinks.

Also, never feed garters fish that has been frozen/thawed, and do not boil or cook fish prior to feeding. This will destroy much of the nutritional content of the meat. I know some people like to use slices of larger fish. I do not do this therefore I cannot tell you which large fish are safe for yuor garters to eat.

I have heard of people serving their garters red meat as well. I personally don't find it necessary and I don't think it's really natural for garters to be eating beef, but I don't see where there would be any ill effects if fed as a treat from time to time.
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Fish

As far as a short list of fish that's ok to feed from fillets, that's usually available in grocery stores......trout (freshwater) and salmon are both ok to give to garters.....f/t or fresh.
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Fish

this page has really well presented info on the matter

Article: Thiaminase – What it is, why you care
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Fish

I finally got a name for the big minnows I've been getting at the bait shop-- silverback minnows. But not sure if that's the bait store name or really what they're called. Need to go look 'em up. I sure hope they're a good feed minnow, the snakes love them!

I think the idea of a list with pics is a good one! :-)
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Old 01-16-2008, 02:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Fish

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Ok so I think we all need to put our heads together and come up with a list of the fish that are ok to be fed. I'll take care of putting the list together you guys just get me the names of the fish.


At some point I'll wonder around to the local pet shops, write down names, and than ask which ones can be fed and which ones can't. This list will not only help me but all new people to the care of garters.

So go ahead and post the fish that are OK for garters to eat.
Here's a start on "safe" feeder fish: Flathead minnows, Guppies, Rose Minnows, and Zebra fish are all ok.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Fish

that gets me thinking about whats in my creek they ive seen ones about 7/8 inches long at max but i have no idea what they are, could they be baby trout? they kinda look like it. My neighbor also (like 3 years ago) released 300 goldfish into our creek so they could be hybrids maybe? ill try to get a pic
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