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Old 01-16-2008, 02:12 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: The Very First of Her Kind.

Thanks for the pictures and the story. That really is a nice looking snake, definitely a keeper.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: The Very First of Her Kind.

Totally a keeper and I want one too
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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im thinking maybe i should actually continue to breed maritimes, i might be selling my adult pair to don in the spring after babies come, but maybe i can keep some babies and breed them back to each other?? i read some where that maritimes change color as they get older is this true?
I think this it true of a lot of garters. It seems that as they mature, they get a lot of their colour....unlike other snakes that start out colourful and then they fade as they get older. I know my pallidulus have really coloured up as they've been growing. I'm hoping on getting some real intense reds and grees to put with my mine (more intense then what you have ) and also hope to maybe be able to get some melanistics or other morphs. They seem to be "almost" as variable as sirtalis.....and they're legal for me....LOL.
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Old 01-16-2008, 08:06 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: The Very First of Her Kind.

lol good luck with that
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Re: The Very First of Her Kind.

Really great looking Eastern. Love the coloration.
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:55 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: The Very First of Her Kind.

Great pictures, do you have any 'habitat' photos of the area you found her? I'd like to see a picture of the unusual head markings you described on some of her babies.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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James, I believe the marking refered to are like the photo of my vagrans.


These markings are very common on the young Easterns here in SC.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: The Very First of Her Kind.

That is a very pretty eastern...
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:25 PM   #19 (permalink)
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no no no no no, those head markings are not what are on my baby! They are two little black lines. I know how most easterns are born with yellow spots on their heads. This is something completely different. I know eastern garters better than the back of my hand. But I took a very close look at the one that has these lines very prominent today. I have come to realize that she is about half as dark as she used to be. She is definately lightening with age! This is FASCINATING! The others are also getting lighter, but not as quickly. I even made sure I wasnt tricking myself into it by taking her and her brother and showing them side by side to my mom. She even said wow that one's really light, is it related to that hypo you found? This may mean that I can get supers in the future!!!!! DO YOU KNOW HOW EXCITING THIS IS FOR ME!!! lol, sorry, had to get that out of my system! I will try and take some closeups of her so that you guys can see. Didn't get to it tonight, was too busy running around my house with her showing my family members and jumping for joy.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:32 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: The Very First of Her Kind.

Very nice snake!
From what I've read of the Michigan herp laws, I can have up to 6 wild caught snakes in my possession and I cannot sell them. However, I do believe I can sell their babies, seeing as they'd be captive bred if they are in my possession they don't count toward the limit. :P
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