Morphs???

sschind · 12-08-2006, 08:05 AM

I have never been into all this morph stuff when it comes to reptiles. To me nothing was ever as pretty as a nice looking "normal" specimen. I do like naturally occurring morphs (melanistic eastern garters for example) but all the snows, hybino's and other man made morphs never did anything for me. I was on Scott Felzer's site last night however, and I may be starting to change my mind. I'm still don't care too much for the albinos and such but a lot of the anerythristic snakes and those with reduced reds and yellows are very nice looking. I could see myself getting something like that pretty easily.

Thamnophis · 12-08-2006, 01:50 PM

You think about this matter in the same way as I do.

Stefan-A · 12-08-2006, 02:07 PM

That sort of makes three of us.

Well, I don't like the whiteish morphs (albino, leucistic etc.), but pretty much anything else that commonly occurs in nature. I don't really have a good reason for it, it's just that albinism is about as appealing to me as bicephalism. The snake doesn't have to be "normal", though and as you can see on Scott Felzer's site, there are a lot of beautiful naturally occurring morphs.

ssssnakeluvr · 12-08-2006, 03:33 PM

Scott has some REAL nice snakes!! I like all forms of garters myself....I do have a baby red sider born from a normal mother that was wild caught...he has orange instead...real nice orange...he's taking rat pups now....I will be getting out and taking some more photos soon and will post pics of him.

abcat1993 · 12-08-2006, 03:59 PM

OOOOO, I want to see that. An orange garter? Sweet.

sschind · 12-08-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ssssnakeluvr

Scott has some REAL nice snakes!! I like all forms of garters myself....I do have a baby red sider born from a normal mother that was wild caught...he has orange instead...real nice orange...he's taking rat pups now....I will be getting out and taking some more photos soon and will post pics of him.

Sounds cool, I can't wait to see the pictures. I could get into that. Its a morph born to a normal parent. I could possibly even convince myself to like albinos since they do occur naturaly as well. What I don't like is crossing the albinos to hypos and creating snows and stuff like that. Morphs that are essentially man made. Yes they are natural in a sense that it is all genetics, but is is manipulated genetics, genetics that would never occur in nature.

Thamnophis · 12-09-2006, 07:43 AM

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bicephalism

What the f... is bicephalism?

snakeman · 12-09-2006, 09:14 AM

Two heads.

Stefan-A · 12-09-2006, 09:22 AM

Actually it should correctly be called bicephaly, dicephaly or polycephaly. Bicephalism is the same thing, but I have no idea if it's a correct word.

Like snakeman said, two heads.

Snaky · 12-09-2006, 11:07 AM

There are morphs that I like, but I don't especially want to collect them since most of the time I find the natural colors have more attraction to me.

I also am a bit afraid of the inbreeding that occurs often with morphs. Breeding the mother again on the offspring, I'm afraid that it has a negative influence on the species on the long run. Although in the future I'll probably take in some morphs that I really like.

12-08-2006, 08:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
sschind Juvenile snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 171 Country:	Morphs??? I have never been into all this morph stuff when it comes to reptiles. To me nothing was ever as pretty as a nice looking "normal" specimen. I do like naturally occurring morphs (melanistic eastern garters for example) but all the snows, hybino's and other man made morphs never did anything for me. I was on Scott Felzer's site last night however, and I may be starting to change my mind. I'm still don't care too much for the albinos and such but a lot of the anerythristic snakes and those with reduced reds and yellows are very nice looking. I could see myself getting something like that pretty easily.

12-08-2006, 01:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Thamnophis Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,313 Country:	Re: Morphs??? You think about this matter in the same way as I do. __________________ Kousebandslangen.nl - Member of the EGSA It is always advisable to be a loser if you cannot become a winner. Frank Zappa

12-08-2006, 02:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 5,060 Country:	Re: Morphs??? That sort of makes three of us. Well, I don't like the whiteish morphs (albino, leucistic etc.), but pretty much anything else that commonly occurs in nature. I don't really have a good reason for it, it's just that albinism is about as appealing to me as bicephalism. The snake doesn't have to be "normal", though and as you can see on Scott Felzer's site, there are a lot of beautiful naturally occurring morphs. __________________ No cutesy.

12-08-2006, 03:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,886 Country:	Re: Morphs??? Scott has some REAL nice snakes!! I like all forms of garters myself....I do have a baby red sider born from a normal mother that was wild caught...he has orange instead...real nice orange...he's taking rat pups now....I will be getting out and taking some more photos soon and will post pics of him.

12-08-2006, 03:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
abcat1993 Old and wise snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: North of Chicago IL, US Posts: 867 Country:	Re: Morphs??? OOOOO, I want to see that. An orange garter? Sweet. __________________ 0.1 Jack Russell Terrier 1.0 rough skinned newt 1.0.0 eastern garter http://www.winnetka36.org/ci/ci_name.htm

12-09-2006, 09:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
snakeman Juvenile snake Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: PA Posts: 126	Re: Morphs??? Two heads.

12-09-2006, 09:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 5,060 Country:	Re: Morphs??? Actually it should correctly be called bicephaly, dicephaly or polycephaly. Bicephalism is the same thing, but I have no idea if it's a correct word. Like snakeman said, two heads. __________________ No cutesy.

12-09-2006, 11:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
Snaky "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,635 Country:	Re: Morphs??? There are morphs that I like, but I don't especially want to collect them since most of the time I find the natural colors have more attraction to me. I also am a bit afraid of the inbreeding that occurs often with morphs. Breeding the mother again on the offspring, I'm afraid that it has a negative influence on the species on the long run. Although in the future I'll probably take in some morphs that I really like.

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