Easterns that I have met - Page 2

stonyloam · 03-11-2008, 01:18 PM

Beautiful snakes Don! Lots of uncommon "common" garters.

Stefan-A · 03-11-2008, 01:19 PM

Beautiful snakes, both of you.

Terry, will you be "baiting snakes" this year, too?

stonyloam · 03-11-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan-A

Terry, will you be "baiting snakes" this year, too?

Any time now. A little warm weather should bring them out.

Sid · 03-11-2008, 02:02 PM

Great thread, Terry. Very interesting and nice photos by both you and Don. I have a number of Easterns and the next nice sunny day I'll take mine outside where the colors show up much truer and post them.

Here's one that past last spring. Very deep green and on stripping:

Stefan-A · 03-11-2008, 02:12 PM

A real beauty, Sid.

Sid · 03-11-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan-A

A real beauty, Sid.

Thanks, Stefan. She was by far the most laid back Eastern that I've ever had. Really made me sick when I lost her.

She was great for taking to school exibits. All the kids loved her.

anji1971 · 03-12-2008, 11:28 AM

Sorry to hear about that, Sid.

I find it very cool that there are so many variations in the Easterns. I've come across many over the years, and I think all have been distinctly different. I also love that they can be mostly striped with very little of the spot pattern, and yet some are almost completely spotted.
"Common" indeed!!

aSnakeLovinBabe · 03-12-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by reed_Kamsler

that blue one and green one are maritimes

I have to disagree with that statement, those are easterns. I find garters of all three types that stonyloam mentioned and I too, break them down into those three color groups. Remember, where I go herping is far our of the range of any maritimes (pennsylvania)

I have a female eastern that's identical to the last pic in the first post here. Guess I need to show you guys what I mean and take some more pics!!!

GarterGuy · 03-12-2008, 11:30 PM

Yeh, Maritimes and Easterns are really similar....it's really hard to differenciate between them, especially in areas where their ranges over lap and they more then likely are integrading. Guess the only "true" Maritimes would be ones from the maritime areas such as Nova Scotia and surrounding islands. That is pretty much their stronghold, since both Easterns and Maritimes are found together pretty much everywhere else.

aSnakeLovinBabe · 03-13-2008, 06:39 PM

I'm not even really convinced that maritimes and easterns should be separate subspecies. honestly, I look at a maritime, and I look at an eastern without a stripe, and I see the same snake. what if the maritimes in their "stronghold" are actually just isolated easterns that have happened to favor a stripeless coloration?

03-11-2008, 01:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
stonyloam "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Western NY Posts: 488 Country:	Re: Easterns that I have met Beautiful snakes Don! Lots of uncommon "common" garters. __________________ Terry

03-11-2008, 01:19 PM	#12 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 4,093 Country:	Re: Easterns that I have met Beautiful snakes, both of you. Terry, will you be "baiting snakes" this year, too? __________________ Natura non contristatur

03-11-2008, 02:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Sid Thamnophis Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,337 Country:	Re: Easterns that I have met Great thread, Terry. Very interesting and nice photos by both you and Don. I have a number of Easterns and the next nice sunny day I'll take mine outside where the colors show up much truer and post them. Here's one that past last spring. Very deep green and on stripping: __________________ Sid 7.6T. s sirtalis- Eastern Garter 1.0 T. s concinnus- Oregon Red-spotted 1.1 T. e vagrans- Wandering Garter

03-11-2008, 02:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 4,093 Country:	Re: Easterns that I have met A real beauty, Sid. __________________ Natura non contristatur

03-12-2008, 11:28 AM	#17 (permalink)
anji1971 Finder of unique Garters Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Windsor, Ontario Posts: 1,640 Country:	Re: Easterns that I have met Sorry to hear about that, Sid. I find it very cool that there are so many variations in the Easterns. I've come across many over the years, and I think all have been distinctly different. I also love that they can be mostly striped with very little of the spot pattern, and yet some are almost completely spotted. "Common" indeed!! __________________ Anji

03-12-2008, 11:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
GarterGuy Brother Snake Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancaster,PA Posts: 1,355 Country:	Re: Easterns that I have met Yeh, Maritimes and Easterns are really similar....it's really hard to differenciate between them, especially in areas where their ranges over lap and they more then likely are integrading. Guess the only "true" Maritimes would be ones from the maritime areas such as Nova Scotia and surrounding islands. That is pretty much their stronghold, since both Easterns and Maritimes are found together pretty much everywhere else. __________________ *Roy* 1.1 T.s.pickeringi 0.1 T.s.concinnus 0.0.2 T.s.pallidulus

03-13-2008, 06:39 PM	#20 (permalink)
aSnakeLovinBabe "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 503 Country:	Re: Easterns that I have met I'm not even really convinced that maritimes and easterns should be separate subspecies. honestly, I look at a maritime, and I look at an eastern without a stripe, and I see the same snake. what if the maritimes in their "stronghold" are actually just isolated easterns that have happened to favor a stripeless coloration? __________________ Shannon<3Nicole 7.10 assorted adult garters. infinity baby garters. that which does not kill me , can only make me stronger.

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