Another mystery garter

[Stefan-A]

But not mine.

This is from an old thread on another forum. It was once upon a time for sale somewhere under the name East River something snake, or something along those lines. It had a length of approximately 80cm (~31 inches) at the time.

The guesses were mostly T. sirtalis. For the record, I disagree.

[jewel-dragons]

i see a nerodia fasciata specie at the background :-D

[Stefan-A]

Quite possible.

[enigma200316]

I don't know, the side stripe looks like its just on 3 and 4, and isn't sirtalis
2 and 3 with maybe some on 4???

[Stefan-A]

That's right, sirtalis has the stripe in 2 and 3.

The stripe says it's a radix. But the coloration is a bit confusing, since it's dark and it doesn't seem to have much of a pattern.

[jewel-dragons]

maybe sirtalis crossed by a radix?

i saw some photo's from a man at the egsa meeting last time,that was a cross parietalis X marcianus (was an accident he told me) they look like a marcianus with some red color in it :-D very nice garter..... but not how it has to be

[adamanteus]

Yes, I was thinking maybe sirtalis X radix cross.

[Stefan-A]

Found some pictures of radix that were uniform black between the stripes. They looked a bit different, but not significantly.

There's a dark morph radix on Alan Francis' home page as well, but it has the typical black markings below the lateral stripe.

[adamanteus]

The mother of a couple of my young radix is totally black, but for a purple vertebral stripe (anerythristic). My remaining radix are all quite different from each other. There is much variation.

[Zephyr]

I'm guessing radix as well.
They seem a bit more stocky in the neck, and the stripe just says "radix" from its appearance. Don't know how to explain it...