Snake ID please

bulrush · 04-11-2008, 01:45 PM

Found this snake in May 2007. Sorry for the pic it's the best I have. I thought it was some type of garter. Tongue was red with black tip. But what kind of garter is it?

Snake is about 24-26 inches long. It tried to run away first, but I caught it and it was pretty gentle.

Note: this is a side pick showing orange-red bars and it had no yellow stripes at all. It does not match the pic of easter garter snakes which all have the black with 3 yellow stripes (one stripe is dorsal).

Thanks.

zooplan · 04-12-2008, 12:46 AM

Hello Chuck,
this could be an eastern too.
It would be helpful to see a side view of the head.

Odie · 04-12-2008, 12:51 AM

Hi, from Oregon, Chuck

Stefan-A · 04-12-2008, 01:46 AM

Welcome aboard.

That's an eastern, IMO.

ssssnakeluvr · 04-12-2008, 05:12 AM

definitely eastern, t sirtalis sirtalis....common for them to have red and orange colors like that.

EdgyExoticReptiles · 04-12-2008, 09:02 AM

thats a very nice eastern

aSnakeLovinBabe · 04-12-2008, 03:07 PM

as the others say you have a lovely eastern garter snake!

bulrush · 04-14-2008, 05:41 AM

Thank you for all your comments. It has been quite a challenge to ID this snake, as all the books and posters only show pics of the "classic" pattern, 3 yellow tripes on black. Though a few books mention the snake has "highly variable coloring". If there was a book showing all the color/pattern variants and where they are found I would buy it in a minute.

bulrush · 04-14-2008, 05:43 AM

p.s. Someone asked for a pic of the head. Are you trying to see the number and pattern of plates on the head? If so I will try to get a good quality pic of the head.

EdgyExoticReptiles · 04-15-2008, 10:17 AM

you dont need to, its an eastern for sure, but what u can do it take a picture of the whole snake so we can see the whole thing

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Originally Posted by bulrush

p.s. Someone asked for a pic of the head. Are you trying to see the number and pattern of plates on the head? If so I will try to get a good quality pic of the head.

04-11-2008, 01:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
bulrush "First shed, A Success" Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 106 Country:	Snake ID please Found this snake in May 2007. Sorry for the pic it's the best I have. I thought it was some type of garter. Tongue was red with black tip. But what kind of garter is it? Snake is about 24-26 inches long. It tried to run away first, but I caught it and it was pretty gentle. Note: this is a side pick showing orange-red bars and it had no yellow stripes at all. It does not match the pic of easter garter snakes which all have the black with 3 yellow stripes (one stripe is dorsal). Thanks.

04-12-2008, 12:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
zooplan Old and wise snake Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bonn Posts: 876 Country:	Re: Snake ID please Hello Chuck, this could be an eastern too. It would be helpful to see a side view of the head. __________________ best wishes bis bald Udo www.zooplan.net Member of the EGSA

04-12-2008, 12:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
Odie "Third shed, A Success" Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 525 Country:	Re: Snake ID please Hi, from Oregon, Chuck

04-12-2008, 01:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
Stefan-A The Prince of Insufficient Light. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern Finland Posts: 5,060 Country:	Re: Snake ID please Welcome aboard. That's an eastern, IMO. __________________ No cutesy.

04-12-2008, 05:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
ssssnakeluvr "PM Boots For Custom Title" Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 1,886 Country:	Re: Snake ID please definitely eastern, t sirtalis sirtalis....common for them to have red and orange colors like that. __________________ Don www.donsgartersnakes.net

04-12-2008, 09:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
EdgyExoticReptiles Edgy Exotic Reptiles Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,261 Country:	Re: Snake ID please thats a very nice eastern __________________ Email: edgyexoticreptiles@yahoo.com AIM: reed_kamsla http://www.edgyexoticreptiles.com

04-12-2008, 03:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
aSnakeLovinBabe Old and wise snake Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 851 Country:	Re: Snake ID please as the others say you have a lovely eastern garter snake! __________________ Shannon<3Nicole 7.10 assorted adult garters. infinity baby garters. that which does not kill me , can only make me stronger.

04-14-2008, 05:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
bulrush "First shed, A Success" Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 106 Country:	Re: Snake ID please Thank you for all your comments. It has been quite a challenge to ID this snake, as all the books and posters only show pics of the "classic" pattern, 3 yellow tripes on black. Though a few books mention the snake has "highly variable coloring". If there was a book showing all the color/pattern variants and where they are found I would buy it in a minute.

04-14-2008, 05:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
bulrush "First shed, A Success" Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 106 Country:	Re: Snake ID please p.s. Someone asked for a pic of the head. Are you trying to see the number and pattern of plates on the head? If so I will try to get a good quality pic of the head.

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