Aid my...snake

[Moto_Driver]

And other question the Trucha and Salmon as a big fish as them provision to mi snake in, pices, strips...?

[KITKAT]

Here is the picture that did not appear in your post.



The difference between the western ribbon snake and the eastern ribbon snake is the two little light dots on the top of the head. These are called "parietal spots" if I remember correctly, and these spots are also not found on most garters. Therefore, with this picture, you have a western ribbon snake. It is a relative of the Thamnophis, and has many similar habits and foods.

I hope this helps.

It is very common for pet stores to identify their garter and ribbon snakes incorrectly, and the term "Garden Snake" is a frequent mistake that they make also.

[Cazador]

Julian,
Yes, cut the trout (trucha) and salmon into strips. Then give them to your snake. Also look at the eastern ribbon snakes at this web site:

Kousebandslangen.nl

You can see western ribbon snakes at this web site:

Kousebandslangen.nl

The same species can look very different from each other.
Rick

[Moto_Driver]

Sory I confused .

1* What snake has the two little light dots on the top of the head, "Western ribbon snake''

2* And I have a ''Western ribbon snake'' whit my snake have the two little light.

Is True or False


My enclourse






Is a 13''x 8''x 6''(Large,Wide,Tall)

I am tink change whit a 20g or more galons acuarium.

PLEASE POST YOURS ENCLOUSERS TO GIVE ME IDEAS.And make hapy my snake!

I need ideas!

[GarterGuy]

Ok, now I'm confused? Is the snake in the pic on the very first post the snake you have? The last pics posted, shows a snake that doesn't appear to have any blue on it at all? I really couldn't see the dots on the top of the head before, but yeah....if they're there, it would seem to be a Western ribbon snake (T.proximus ssp.)....I'm not even going to try and figure out what subspecies until I know exactly which pic is of the actual snake. Isn't snake identification FUN!

As far as the enclosure (I'm sorry, don't have any pics of mine) one thing you REALLY need is someplace for your snake to hide. From what I can see, you've only got a water bowl and a branch. You should have something for it to hide in or under. Even something as simple as a paper towel roll will do....just as long as it's something it can get into or under and doesn't have any chance of getting crushed or otherwise hurt (don't put in rocks for it to hide under....it'll push the bedding out from underneth it and could get crushed!).

---Roy

[Cazador]

Mas de la gente en este foro dicho que tu tiene un Eastern ribbon snake. Una dama dicho que tu tiene un Western ribbon snake. Ahora, por favor dime de donde he comprado este serpiente. Lo va a ayudar nosotros si nos sabemos de donde este serpiente vivido. Mas del tiempo los azul serpientes viven cerca de Florida. Azul serpeintes de Florida pueden ser Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis (Florida blue), Thamnophis sirtalis similis, or Thamnophis sauritus nitae (blue striped Eastern ribbon snake). Nunca de la gente dicho que es un T.s. similis. Un hombre dicho que es un T.s. sirtalis (Florida blue), pero su serpiente hecho pequno barras blanca en frente de los ojos. Solamente ribbon snakes tienen este barras en frente de los ojos, tan es un ribbon snake. Si han vivido cerca de Florida, entonces es seguro que es un T.s. nitae. Se han vivido lejos de Florida, entonces es possiblemente un otro ribbon snake. El Roy (Garterguy) dicho que su serpeinte necessitan algun lugar esconder, y es la verdad. Pon madera en el cajon, no una roca. Tambien, yo creo que tu necessita una casa mas grande para su serpeinte. Finalmente, un mas pregunta. Es su serpiente el serpiente azul en el primer pajina de mas arriba, or es cerca la mas arriba de este pajina? Hasta luego,
Rick


Most of the people on this forum said that you have an Eastern ribbon snake. One lady said that you have a Western ribbon snake. Now please tell me where you bought this snake. It is going to help us if we know where this snake used to live. Most of the time, blue snakes live near Florida (I didn't mention any exceptions). Blue snakes from Florida could be a Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis (Florida blue), Thamnophis sirtalis similis, or a Thamnophis sauritus nitae (blue striped eastern ribbon snake). None of the people said it was a T.s. similis. One person said it was a T.s. sirtalis (Florida blue), but your snake has small white bars in front of its eyes. Only ribbon snakes have these bars in front of their eyes, so it must be a ribbon snake. If it lived near Florida, then it must be a T.s. nitae. If it lived far from Florida, then it's possibly a different ribbon snake. Roy (Garterguy) said your snake needs some place to hide, and this is true. Put some wood in the cage, not a rock. Also, I believe you need a larger home for your snake. Finally, one more question. Is your snake the blue one at the top of the first page, or is it near the top of this page? See ya,
Rick

[boeh]

Hola Moto_Driver

If your snake has those 2 dots, it's a Thamnophis proximus ssp. (subspecies). If the snake don't have any dots or only one dot, it's quite possible thats an Thamnophis sauritus ssp.

For a clear identification we need some good pics of your snake (top and side pics). If i interpret it right, no one of the pictures showing your snake, except of the pictures with the cage?

We have a thread with some enclosures:
Enclosure Pictures

As Rox already said, you need some hiding places and a larger tank as the snake grow.

Cyrill

[Markus18]

the for me it is a eastern ribbon snake because the head is not so big and beamy!
Upton Herpetology - Snakes
i think its athamnophis sauritus

[ssssnakeluvr]

ummm...the nice little brown garter in the deli cup is a northwestern garter...thamnophis ordinoides.... Most garters and ribbons have the 2 little dots on the head

[GarterGuy]

Originally Posted by ssssnakeluvr

ummm...the nice little brown garter in the deli cup is a northwestern garter...thamnophis ordinoides.... Most garters and ribbons have the 2 little dots on the head

Yeh, I was thinking that was a T.ordinoides. Knew it wasn't a ribbon.